Please remove COP requirements on reforged relic and AF

[Demonjustin]

You know what could put the fun back in doing CoP instead of feeling like a chore? Don't do it while level 99, wearing sparks gear. Pick a job that isn't capped so there is some real danger in the zones you have to go through. Trying to sneak your way past true sight/sound mobs that'll eat your face if you get caught puts a whole different spin on the journey. At this point, getting the next cutscene isn't guaranteed might put some adventure back in your life.

Two things to that.

A: This argument has never worked to solve anything. Back when people complained Abyssea was to easy there was always the idea of don't use Atma, don't use Cruor Buffs, but who did it? No one. Yes, you can intentionally gimp yourself to make things harder, but no one does it outside of a very small group of people.

B: Then you have to find the right balance, easy enough it's doable without others, hard enough it's not something you curb stomp and move on from. Thing is, you can't easily make these balances, doesn't happen, I did my Rank 3 fight on this character at 30, was fairly hard, almost failed, but I pulled through. It was the same type of thing you're talking about basically, I could have leveled to 35 or 40 and smashed right through it, but I held back and intentionally kept my RDM @30 until I completed it, and even called for help on every monster I had to kill that would give me XP just to prevent myself from leveling up. I did it for that artificial challenge, but not all fights are so easy to do that with, and not everyone, or hardly anyone, will do it, nor should anyone be expected to.

[Crevox]

You know what could put the fun back in doing CoP instead of feeling like a chore? Don't do it while level 99, wearing sparks gear. Pick a job that isn't capped so there is some real danger in the zones you have to go through. Trying to sneak your way past true sight/sound mobs that'll eat your face if you get caught puts a whole different spin on the journey. At this point, getting the next cutscene isn't guaranteed might put some adventure back in your life.

The fights were never the issue. The fights are fine. EVERYTHING ELSE in between is what sucks.

You want to make CoP just a rush of fight after fight? Don't have to travel anywhere? Sure, that would be great.

[Gannon]

It sounds like you are playing the wrong game if you are not willing to put in the time and effort required for your items.

[Demonjustin]

It sounds like you are playing the wrong game if you are not willing to put in the time and effort required for your items.

It's not a matter of time and effort it's a matter of doing content that provides no challenge, entertainment, and is nothing more than a roadblock that wastes your time.

[Gannon]

It's not a matter of time and effort it's a matter of doing content that provides no challenge, entertainment, and is nothing more than a roadblock that wastes your time.

It is still time you need to invest for your gear.

[Crevox]

It is still time you need to invest for your gear.

Time that takes exponentially longer than everything else and provides zero fun or entertainment. It is literally running for hours on end.

The actual gear requires items that you trade in. This pre-requirement to being able to do that should not exist.

[Gannon]

Time that takes exponentially longer than everything else and provides zero fun or entertainment. It is literally running for hours on end.

The actual gear requires items that you trade in. This pre-requirement to being able to do that should not exist.

It does exist and be glad it's a one time requirement. It's been mentioned a lot already, but it's a lot quicker and easier than when the rest of us had to do it. Just get them done and never look at it again for crying out loud.

[Zarchery]

It's not a matter of time and effort it's a matter of doing content that provides no challenge, entertainment, and is nothing more than a roadblock that wastes your time.

Farming sparks provides no challenge, and is nothing more than a roadblock. Neither is gaining XP. Or farming currency for a relic. Or farming gil. Almost every task in this game lacks challenge. You arbitrarily label things as "just a roadblock" on the simple basis of "I don't feel like doing this, so it's unnecessary. Get rid of it.".

My entire point through this whole thing is that your suggestion of "get rid of the CoP requirement" has no more merit than "get rid of the need for gil" or "get rid of experience points" or "get rid of sparks". You guys keep pretending it does because you just don't want to do it and think that's enough. I don't want to do Delve. Should I be allowed a free Whirlpool Mask or Oatixurs?

[Zarchery]

I just noticed that Crevox is the same guy who's been around for like 3 months and started that big "I quit" thread at the beginning of February. Why is it that the biggest malcontents who dislike the game project this onto everybody? I've been seeing this since 2005. It's like "I don't like this game, there's no way anyone could, it's clearly dying unless they custom tailor it the way I like". Same thing, year after year, since 2005.

[Sfchakan]

I just noticed that Crevox is the same guy who's been around for like 3 months and started that big "I quit" thread at the beginning of February. Why is it that the biggest malcontents who dislike the game project this onto everybody? I've been seeing this since 2005. It's like "I don't like this game, there's no way anyone could, it's clearly dying unless they custom tailor it the way I like". Same thing, year after year, since 2005.

I wonder why he hasn't been banned for trolling.