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    Quote Originally Posted by bungiefanNA View Post
    You could do it as an LS event... The problem is it lowers the points each gladiator gets, as they are divided evenly between the party members. Monipulators have little incentive to risk losing their points when they can only use them to unlock other Monipulators and some instincts, while Gladiators get gear they can use outside the event.
    Neither side has incentive, which is why I only level in Belligerency anymore besides level 1~10 personally. Monsters have being much more powerful and a higher cap to their infamy as their benefit to participation, while there is great risk to get that benefit. At the same time, players have next to no reason to kill monsters, the gear is lackluster beyond compare and you would need so many points to get a single good piece of gear that it's just not worth the time to farm up with or without fighting other players.
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    By that logic people have no incentives to play as monster in the first place!

    Oh, wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selindrile View Post
    By that logic people have no incentives to play as monster in the first place!

    Oh, wait.
    That's partially true. Fighting monster players is so unbalanced that everyone I have ever tried to get into it has instantly quit due to the imbalance, besides the fun aspect PvP has literally go benefit for players outside of Monstrosity besides the gear which is so bad it's not worth the time. The reward ratio for Monstrosity PvP is even worse than Job Points are right now, and that's saying something. When it comes to Monstrosity as a whole while the main part of it is for fun it can also be used to farm Sparks effectivly, I can farm up a ton of Sparks in no time via RoE by simply FCing a zone of my choosing with my Coeurl 99 due to -ga spam which completes Monstrosity & Total kills as well as 500+ DMG multiple times in a short period. I often can farm 5k Sparks in roughly 10 or less minutes if I try to which is quite fast, especially when you factor in I move faster than a normal player does.
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    4.) I think this is a good idea, to those saying the playing field would be imbalanced, it already is.
    Under most circumstances, especially at the lower caps, monstrosity pvp is hugely stacked in favor of the monipulator. Monipulators gain substantial bonuses as they achieve NM or HNM status, while gladiators get absolutely nothing from their CG or HCG status except the ability to open chests. Even as a party, at the lower caps it is extremely difficult, because unlike a normal monster, a player knows who to take down first. Uncapped play would level the playing field, moreso if monipulator parties were allowed; but at lower level caps, letting monipulators party would make it impossible to be a gladiator.

    That being said, I don't want to see monipulators get nerfed, but rather something done to improve the gladiator experience, like special buffs available at CG and HCG tiers that increase movement speed or confer other benefits to account for the huge advantages certain monster types in particular have.

    (Note: at lv30 cap, I have been unable to take down any monipulator alone unless they were AFK with the pvp flag on- now that I have earned HCG status, I avoid participating because I don't want to lose it)
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