Suggestions: Quality of Life Stuff and other suggestions

[Zenion]

Sure but are you opposed to them adding this for some specific reason?

Technical limitations.

Like, seriously, not even trying to be a troll here. This is basically like putting afterglow on a weapon. The thing with that is, you don't just add afterglow to a weapon - you trade in one that doesn't have afterglow to receive one that does, and they're different items (for example, Nirvana 99 is item ID 19833, while Nirvana 99 with afterglow is 19962.)

Rank points, on the other hand, are the same item with augment metadata to track the rank and path. Hit 25, it's still the same old Nyame Mail as it was at 0... which means it would still have to use the same model.

So, like... either they're introducing a whole brand new branch of game code where models are determined by augments, which would be super cool but not happening at this point in the game's life; or they're adding new afterglow duplicates of the Odyssey gear - how's that play with the Nyame rare tag?

[Catmato]

Technical limitations.

IMO that's a terrible reason to want something to not exist. I can understand wanting to keep glowing stuff rare or just not liking glowing stuff at all. But not wanting something to exist because you think it would take too much effort from the devs or you can't fathom a way they'd do it just feels an excuse to rain on someone else's parade.

[Alhanelem]

Opinion, not a fact.

Actually, it is a fact. The items do in fact indicate their rank on them (otherwise, the player wouldn't know either aside from having done the work), and that makes it plain and obvious to both you and anyone that they are what they are. Indisputable fact.

I mean, I actually wasn't going to go there, but you felt the need to have a dispute when I already said "I think." Next time don't reply to a sentence that starts with "I think" with "OPINION NOT FACT!" I think = opinion.

I think Pixela has a great idea, we are visual animals and if you think a visual armor or weapon has 0 factor in players deciding to pursue it, you are wrong as proved by history.

I never said no one got something because it looked cool. We spent a whole freaking thread discussing that very issue. But it's not the only reason to get something, and there are countless reasons to get these items. They don't NEED to look fancier to convince anyone to get them.

I mean, this is entitlement at its worst. They put a bunch of amazing items in the game that tons of people want because they are amazing, and we're actually saying that it isn't enough reward that they're the best items out there? really? But of course you would rush to Pixela's defense.

Now: Do i need to use huge bold underline text with the words "opinion" or "fact" just for you? "I think" = opinion, so why do you reply to this with "OPINION NOT FACT!" when the sentence was not attempting to present a fact?

Sure but are you opposed to them adding this for some specific reason?

Yes. Limited dev resources. We're going to be lucky to get any content updates going forward, so that time and energy is best spent on actual content for the playerbase at large over upgrading already amazing awesome stuff that lots of people already want anyway. This doesn't add to the value of these items when they are already so significantly desired by their target audience already, and comes with a non-zero development cost when we are already in a state of reduced updates.


Look at it this way: Altering an item in any way, whether its adding effects or changing art or w hatever else, is basically an equivalent effort to just adding a new item. Given the choice between making an already super shiny item shinier, and getting some other new item for some content sometime in the future, I'll take the new item.

I'm just being realistic here: Your suggestion is a fantasy. They're not going to do it, even if it was a good idea and they could just snap their fingers to make it happen. Frankly we'll be lucky if any suggestion here even gets considered at all at this point. Ten years ago, this might have made sense.

[Alhanelem]

That's most likely correct, even if it's absolutely trivial to add the gem glow, they coouldn't simply add it to the item because it would have it regardless of rank.

[Pixela]

I meant rank 30, actual finished body and complete.

You just create a new item ID and dats associated with them (which are just duplicates with an effect embedded), then trade the rank 30 current body to the npc and in an hour you get the glow one (the name can even be the same) with the 1 of 4 maxed out paths as your old one was.

It will be identical in every way, except the item id is different and it points to a different dat file.

Maybe I'm missing something, it seems pretty simple to me.

[Zenion]

I meant rank 30, actual finished body and complete.

You just create a new item ID and dats associated with them (which are just duplicates with an effect embedded), then trade the rank 30 current body to the npc and in an hour you get the glow one (the name can even be the same) with the 1 of 4 maxed out paths as your old one was.

It will be identical in every way, except the item id is different and it points to a different dat file.

Maybe I'm missing something, it seems pretty simple to me.

Maybe that would work. Does anyone know how the rare tag works with regards to different stages of the same item? Like, I'm sure relic and mythic are just like "no, you have this one, you can't just start it again", but does anyone know how it works for empyreans?

If you can't have the same empyrean weapon at two different levels (because of inventory errors, and not just a "you can't start that trial at some point), then yeah, that wouldn't be too hard. If you can have, say, Twashtar 99 and Twashtar 95 at the same time, though, then that solution just breaks because it implicitly means letting people do multiple (or all) Nyame paths, which seems to be contrary to the actual intended design.

Mind you, I wouldn't trust this to be implemented without, like, "trade the finished gear plus 10000 stones" in any event.

[Immortal]

How sad is it that we are at the point where people are discouraging others from expecting something that most would consider the bare minimum, a tiny dat swap or at worst adding a new item ID to give the tiniest of glows. They've even demoralized their community so badly they are essentially attacking others for their ideas for new stuff lol.

[Sp1cyryan]

How sad is it that we are at the point where people are discouraging others from expecting something that most would consider the bare minimum, a tiny dat swap or at worst adding a new item ID to give the tiniest of glows. They've even demoralized their community so badly they are essentially attacking others for their ideas for new stuff lol.

It must be difficult for you as the game further winds down in activity and development. When you try to constantly force a happy face on everyone over any minute or miniscule matter. Just relax and let it go. It's not like the odds are with you, and you can't hold back the tide of sentiment.

[Pixela]

It must be difficult for you as the game further winds down in activity and development. When you try to constantly force a happy face on everyone over any minute or miniscule matter. Just relax and let it go. It's not like the odds are with you, and you can't hold back the tide of sentiment.

What do you get out of posting in this manner? Crab in bucket mentality or?

[Catmato]

What do you get out of posting in this manner? Crab in bucket mentality or?

The forums are his new Spike Flail.