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  1. #2581
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekrave View Post
    Currently there are 15 total mog safe/storage slots (Mog Safe -> Mog Wardrobe 8), they were able to add Mog Wadrobe 5 through Mog Wardrobe 8 so is there any reason why they are all still capped at 80? Please consider increasing the cap for Mog Safe, Mog Safe 2, Storage, Mog Locker, Mog Satchel, Mog Sack, Mog Case, Mog Wardrobe to 99 if possible.

    Sorry for cutting in on the mount suggestions.
    It's a long-standing technical limitation. It's easier for them to have more seperate 80 slot spaces than it is for them to have fewer spaces with more slots in them. And the bigger each individual space is, the longer it takes to load in. They already seperated the always-acessible normal inventory spaces from the wardrobe spaces for loading purposes in order to get your inventory accessible more quickly (as equipped gear is always ready server-side and you don't need to wait for equipped gear to load in before it's useable). If they were able to increase the capacity of those spaces, it would definitely increase loading times.
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    I would love if they could add a bank system to mog garden or something, bank would be account wide.

    You can put something in your bank and take it out on your alt on that same account, we already have a ghetto version of this by being able to send r/e to alts on the same account but this would be so much more useful.
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  3. #2583
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixela View Post
    I would love if they could add a bank system to mog garden or something, bank would be account wide.

    You can put something in your bank and take it out on your alt on that same account, we already have a ghetto version of this by being able to send r/e to alts on the same account but this would be so much more useful.
    This sure sounds a lot like the Delivery Box to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pixela View Post
    I would love if they could add a bank system to mog garden or something, bank would be account wide.

    You can put something in your bank and take it out on your alt on that same account, we already have a ghetto version of this by being able to send r/e to alts on the same account but this would be so much more useful.
    This sure sounds a lot like the Delivery Box to me.
    If you had to log out and back in twice to make a deposit or withdrawal, and could only move a million gil at a time, yes. Exactly like the Delivery Box.

    That said, this feels like a workaround to a different problem. The only reason I can think of that this should be needful is if you have multiple crafting shield characters. Otherwise, it's "we should have more AH slots" in different clothes. Which... yeah. We should have more AH slots. We won't, can't, because PS2 limitations are still a thing in 2022, but that's a whole other can of worms.
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  5. #2585
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    If you had to log out and back in twice to make a deposit or withdrawal, and could only move a million gil at a time, yes. Exactly like the Delivery Box.
    I don't see how your idea changes that. Your other character is still going to have to move items out of this magic new space of yours.

    If you're actually proposing that you're able to directly access another character's inventory while that character isn't logged in, their system likely isn't capable of this.

    Your original sentence in your proposal post would still require you to log in and out on both characters. So... just like the delivery box.


    We should have more AH slots. We won't, can't, because PS2 limitations are still a thing in 2022,
    It's not a PS2 limitation, it's a server stress limitation. They have explained this in the past, that it would increase the load on the server if they added more slots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    It's not a PS2 limitation, it's a server stress limitation. They have explained this in the past, that it would increase the load on the server if they added more slots.
    It's a limitation tied to the game not being able to change to take advantage of technological advances. I'm gonna keep calling it PS2 limitations until I see an interview where someone explicitly says "actually, we don't need to find old PS2 devkits to work with any more, which is nice."

    As to the server load problem itself though, when there were four separate auction houses that didn't seem to cause any trouble. Seems to me that the issue isn't the number of items in total, it's the number of items at once. Maybe we can't have 8 auction slots, but what's stopping us having a second sales ledger with another 7 slots, which has to be accessed separately?

    As to Pixela's idea on the shared bank system... yeah, there's likely nothing in place, short of POL account, which shares data between characters, so it'd be a little difficult to track gil between them. Especially when you consider characters across multiple servers; should I be able to access my gil from Fenrir if I set up a mule on Asura? I don't think I can move items that way, not without paying a world transfer fee. But it would still be nice to, say, be able to move more than a million gil at a time, at least if it's between characters on one POL account.

    There's probably some server stress reason why we can't do that either, though.
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    Stop saying everything is a server / engine limitation, some things are a design choice.

    There are limitations on auction house slots to encourage you to undercut, this stops massive price bloating.
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    It's a limitation tied to the game not being able to change to take advantage of technological advances. I'm gonna keep calling it PS2 limitations until I see an interview where someone explicitly says "actually, we don't need to find old PS2 devkits to work with any more, which is nice."
    A server limitation is not a PS2 limitation. Call it what you want, that doesn't make it true. And the dev kits are/were only needed in any way for the clients, not the servers. But them not being dependent on the PS2 doesn't mean they can just magically change everything about them. We could have had more slots even during the PS2 era, it was a design decision to limit server stress and this has been said in the past.

    The game not adapting to technological advances is also not entirely the fault of the PS2, either. A fault of poor decisions, perhaps. Anything you call a "PS2 limiatiion is really "we don't have the budget/people/resources to do it" limitation. The PS2 version doesn't exist anymore. Any such limitation that remains is entirely due to how much it would cost to change it. It's not that they can't change it because of the PS2.



    Stop saying everything is a server / engine limitation, some things are a design choice.

    There are limitations on auction house slots to encourage you to undercut, this stops massive price bloating.
    lol "to encourage undercutting."
    Dude, they aren't that smart. And I don't mean that to be offensive. They wouldn't implement something like this for a reason like that.

    And in fact it was a design choice, yes. A design choice made because of how the server that handles the AH works.

    I don't say "everything" is a server limitation (I've never said engine, that would be at least partly ps2 related). But if it has something to do with network traffic, that isn't device specific. They could send network traffic to a Game Boy if they wanted (with a little hacking or a special device). The game having PS2 has no bearing on whether they can or can't do something networking related.



    There's probably some server stress reason why we can't do that either, though.
    Well, they can certainly do it because I still don't see how his idea is different from the delivery box.
    Any issue with creating whatever-it-is would most likely just be a time and effort of implementation thing rather than a server issue.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 03-23-2022 at 02:45 AM.

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    Already a thread for this, but it is crazy players must change servers for a name change, as-well as no option to edit, or in XI's case, change your character's pre-set.

    One of the reasons WoW was dominate for so long, and XI kind of fell to the side was how WoW's team always kept the game modernized (The good and the bad). Not discussing Blizzard's internal issues, but how they maintained the game's features with today's standards (Outdated visuals and crappy game-play aside........Those are like, overhauls as opposed to minor quality of life changes).

    Male Elvaan are the $hits. Been stuck with this nerd's awkward animations because I have relics and whatnot on him lol. Wanted to go female for the longest, without doing everything over but that may be the "Charm" of XI sadly....
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    Could we please have some kind update/replacement to the delivery system? Only being able to send off 8 item at a time to my mule is really painful.
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    Too many people in FFXI land are toxic. Including the official forums.

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