MORE damage-based Records of Eminence objectives?

[Tamarsamar]

You know, I'm not one to normally say "you don't REALLY play this game do you?"

Last that I heard he actually does play this game, but . . . at that point, he hadn't beaten Genkai 5 yet . . .

[detlef]

Baldy isn't redeemable for gil items and who cares about xp? This is redeemable for gil items. If you'll notice buffs give pretty much nothing in reives a throwback from campaign exploiting for crappy AN. Also even that little tiny bit afking there got taken out. And that came with some risk

It's not really useful anymore. I can't argue with that. But at the time, people needed lots of Bayld for gear, WKR triggers, and even Mog Garden ki. It's already so easy to cap out on Spark gear that the only things worth buying are skill tomes and Rem's tales. If I'm missing something, please point it out. I don't see anything worth very much gil at all.

Do you really think someone would decide to make a Cure cheat bot to sell skill tomes instead of making a fishing bot? I mean really.

And for fast farming mark my words if they make it so any cure to anyone counts there will be groups of people just standing around in wkr next to the boss so they get AoEd constantly accensioning cures on everything in range

People already just stand around getting hit and curing themselves instead of contributing. Also, what do you care if people do this? You're only against people doing this afk aren't you?

[Catmato]

This isn't really the place to discuss the workings of things that violate the game's TOS, so I won't add any more to that topic.

And for fast farming mark my words if they make it so any cure to anyone counts there will be groups of people just standing around in wkr next to the boss so they get AoEd constantly accensioning cures on everything in range

Yeah, it'd be terrible to get a bunch of cures in WKRs.

[dasva]

Why does everybody keep saying this? From what I've heard, a farm bot is marginally more complicated than a cure bot.

You don't actually need a bot to repeatidly cure. A single repetitious task is loads easier than running around, killing stuff, avoiding obstactles keeping yourself alive thru those cures, etc all combined. Also non bot 3rd pt tools could do simple loops but not farming

Theoretically you could probably do it technically legitally by wearing something like Berserker's Torque with the right trust npcs out and maybe for fun add in light elemental or whm auto fighting something that you can't kill or at least not for a long time such as shantotto mission mobs that only take certain dmg types. Or in a method semi similar to the afk auto magic skillup stand near some poison with said npcs out. Though trust needs you/them attacking iirc

[dasva]

It's not really useful anymore. I can't argue with that. But at the time, people needed lots of Bayld for gear, WKR triggers, and even Mog Garden ki. It's already so easy to cap out on Spark gear that the only things worth buying are skill tomes and Rem's tales. If I'm missing something, please point it out. I don't see anything worth very much gil at all.

Do you really think someone would decide to make a Cure cheat bot to sell skill tomes instead of making a fishing bot? I mean really.

People already just stand around getting hit and curing themselves instead of contributing. Also, what do you care if people do this? You're only against people doing this afk aren't you?

Honestly I haven't priced out the sparks/gil of items yet. Been too busy redeeming for tomes. As far as do this vs fishing would really depend on how good a cure one could be though. That said I think the fear would it really takes ebisu to make much money fishing (even that isn't great but it's easily botted) and that takes a good 2 months at least to get plus reallocation of resources to get the fish for it. Meanwhile you could do this day 1. And SE tends to be leery letting gil sellers immediately start making money right after they got banned.

As far as the wkr.. that was more of a how it can be abused to be better than current dmg trials. That said a bunch of people no longer contributing plus 3+ npcs each could become a bit of a problem

[dasva]

Using Abyssea is just the easy way of explaining it, if need be I could start talking about any level 75 monster I can easily hit just as hard, Abyssea is just the most common place.

But heres the thing if we are using 75 content or abyssea any job can do crazy stuff. I mean what job can't AoE cleave in abyssea? And while not 75 content I can do 500 dmg tier 1 nukes to stuff outside jeuno on brd/blm wearing only baqil staff and fishing gear. So I'm sure with just a little gear or actually casting songs on myself I could do rapid fire 500 dmg nukes with any mage job on 75 content. Same gear and just MM and ultimate atmas 1154 stonega so could if nothing else spam that for cleaving

Plus neither are good environments for farming sparks.

[Sfchakan]

But heres the thing if we are using 75 content or abyssea any job can do crazy stuff. I mean what job can't AoE cleave in abyssea? And while not 75 content I can do 500 dmg tier 1 nukes to stuff outside jeuno on brd/blm wearing only baqil staff and fishing gear. So I'm sure with just a little gear or actually casting songs on myself I could do rapid fire 500 dmg nukes with any mage job on 75 content. Same gear and just MM and ultimate atmas 1154 stonega so could if nothing else spam that for cleaving

Plus neither are good environments for farming sparks.

But if you are nuking lower level mobs outside of Jeuno, you are being inconvenienced and having to go out of your way for credit! You should be getting 100k sparks/hr throwing out Cures and Hastes in all of those Delve groups you're doing, dasva. You should never be expected to change to an optimal job for any task in an MMO.

/s

[detlef]

Honestly I haven't priced out the sparks/gil of items yet. Been too busy redeeming for tomes. As far as do this vs fishing would really depend on how good a cure one could be though. That said I think the fear would it really takes ebisu to make much money fishing (even that isn't great but it's easily botted) and that takes a good 2 months at least to get plus reallocation of resources to get the fish for it. Meanwhile you could do this day 1. And SE tends to be leery letting gil sellers immediately start making money right after they got banned.

As far as the wkr.. that was more of a how it can be abused to be better than current dmg trials. That said a bunch of people no longer contributing plus 3+ npcs each could become a bit of a problem

It's a fair concern I guess, and it's always possible that they add more items that can be purchased with Sparks. In its current iteration though, it doesn't appear to be worth exploiting.

Regarding the WKR comment, I think that's actually a good reason for them to add cure trials rather than an example of something that can be abused. WKR has so many problems I feel like extra motivation to top peoples' HP can only help.

[Calintzpso]

Greetings,

Below is a follow-up from Akihiko Matsui regarding adjustments to Records of Eminence.

Due to this, we of course would love it if you had the mentality of “I gotta accomplish them all!” But this isn’t something that is meant to turn into a competition for claiming monsters, so please rest easy about that.

Ha!...haha....ha~

...you have no idea the hell you've rained upon my OCD...Everythings finally blue in my status menu...now this...god dam it...

[Camate]

Greetings,

We understand that at the moment pet actions do not count toward the “Total Healing” objective. The development team is planning to address this so all healing actions performed by pets will count towards completing this objective. They are currently looking into the implementation schedule for this and once we have further details we will be sure to share!