MORE damage-based Records of Eminence objectives?

[detlef]

I can't get outraged over that. It just means some gimpy players will be able to gear themselves a bit more acceptably or that someone could conceivably collect Rem's tales without contributing to AA congestion.

Just seems to be a lot of hassle to exploit with not much to gain.

[Demonjustin]

Still, I don't see the cure method of getting 100, which would take at very least about 5 minutes to finish since cast time would be about 1 second then you get standard 2 second delay between, thats roughly 300 seconds, as all to easy to exploit nor do I see it as a real threat or problem when the 500+ DMG is so laughably easy and can be finished in less time and is no harder.

[Karah]

The only difference being you can cure while you sleep... (you could get the 500 damage objective also, but its quite a bit more complex to do that asleep).

[Sfchakan]

In Delve you have so many Haste buffs and almost all DDs(SAM is an exception admittedly) are using high amounts of multi-hit WSs, which kinda balances it out all the same.

People don't do Delve that much anymore on my server. I would gamble and assume it's likely the same on most. So... why even bring up Delve at all?

Why do you continue citing examples of big group content when RoE is a system designed for solo or lowman downtime? You don't seem to be understanding that.

[Louispv]

There's no healing and buffing repeatable records for the same reason healing and buffing suck in reives, and in campaign, and in besieged. You can have a bot do it in a corner 24/7, while you're afk. Just set it up to

1)Equip the required amount of HP+ gear (Karieyh+1 gear has hp+400 by itself)
2) cast a cure
3)Remove the gear
4)Repeat.

Then trade them in for skill books, sell them, sell the gil. Or just get free gil without being at the keyboard. With absolutely zero risk. At least the killing stuff trials has a chance of killing you, since you're actually fighting things and running around in aggro, regardless of how weak the enemy is.

If people getting 200 bayld/hour afk'ing in a reive needed to be nerfed out, getting an unlimited amount of sparks without ever needing to play the game definitely will.

[Demonjustin]

Why do you continue citing examples of big group content when RoE is a system designed for solo or lowman downtime? You don't seem to be understanding that.

Any Pre-Adoulin content or Ceizak Mob, I hit for 500+ often, would with any 2-hander or nuke, anything else in Adoulin that is outside of that area can be WSed or nuked for that much, 2-hander DMG may not break 500. In any event such as Delve, AAs, or SKCNMs, you should have BRDs, and thus, Marches, allowing the same kind of damage I just used as an example in the post you quoted, in Skirmish, you take BLMs, they do more than 500+ a nuke.

Show me an example of content where 500+ is uncommon and you don't have BRDs that involves level 99 and Spark gear.

[dasva]

I don't really care if it gets exploited. In the end it's just sparks.

I mean, did you care when you got free XP/bayld from afking in colonization reives?

Baldy isn't redeemable for gil items and who cares about xp? This is redeemable for gil items. If you'll notice buffs give pretty much nothing in reives a throwback from campaign exploiting for crappy AN. Also even that little tiny bit afking there got taken out. And that came with some risk

It'd be tough to get more sparks/hr than going into abyssea on a 1hander and doing the 500+ damage. I don't think exploiting cures would be a problem.

That's not the point at all... it's about doing it afk easily. That said reives would probably spike that alot better than dmg. Also abyssea is slow sparks doing that when you can get so much from killing SoA stuff.

Please explain how this could be exploited, you would have to some how deal yourself enough damage to keep healing yourself for that much, thats the reason I don't see it being exploited, unlike a DD who go beats everything in the face in Abyssea for that much every hit or can WS on anything in the game and get multiple points. A mage would need someone who is missing HP in order to cure them for that amount, so in order to exploit it you would have to be losing your HP somehow, and then you would have to also have a nice amount of Refresh to keep your MP up still since you would need it to cure.
.

The same way I kept activating sorcerers ring back at 99 before I decide it wasn't worth the effort. Also will people stop using abyssea. First off even schs melee hard in there. And 2nd this is all talks about exploits not normal fighting. It's much harder to program something that goes out and gets lights and keys time and hits hard enough in abyssea but you can cure yourself endlessly with 20 refresh in abyssea paradox and people already do for skillups


Seriosuly do people not understand the concept of exploits. xxx/brd song was terrible AN/hr but ya know what people still did it because there was plenty of advantages in it. Such as afking for days completely safe until someone brought some mobs to you lol. It was so bad they patched it. Almost no one is going to be cure cheating for sparks while actually playing. It's not going to be good. And for fast farming mark my words if they make it so any cure to anyone counts there will be groups of people just standing around in wkr next to the boss so they get AoEd constantly accensioning cures on everything in range

[Demonjustin]

Using Abyssea is just the easy way of explaining it, if need be I could start talking about any level 75 monster I can easily hit just as hard, Abyssea is just the most common place.

[Catmato]

That's not the point at all... it's about doing it afk easily.

Why does everybody keep saying this? From what I've heard, a farm bot is marginally more complicated than a cure bot.

[Karah]

Why does everybody keep saying this? From what I've heard, a farm bot is marginally more complicated than a cure bot.

Not really true, anyone literally anyone can cure afk... It can be done on ps2 with some tape and/or a chair.

Anything other than a a Repetitive single/combo function takes some knowledge.

In a nut shell, anything that you can stand still and do = anyone can do it.
If it requires movement, it's doable but it's a pain unless you have C++ knowledge or all day to sit and program (or someone who did all the work gave it to you).