Server Merge

[Alhanelem]

14 went from being a game closer to XI than it is currently to a game that has become basicly a WoW clone,

IMO, XIV is largely its own thing, not like either XI or WoW. You say "wow clone" in a derogatory context, but the fact is, while there are some things many people don't like about it, there are things it did do well, and those things are why it was so successful.

Sfchakan said ARR is a whole bunch of anonymous players all standing around playing the game solo queing in for dungeons.

This really isn't true at all. While it is an option, I pre-form all my parties, I rarely ever use the duty finder. Too many people around here just take people at their word and form opinions without even trying it. The hardest endgame content also doesn't use the duty finder at all (and the rest of the endgame content that does, people don't use the duty finder unless they like losing).

Anyways, the world sure could use another merge IMO because right now there just isn't enough going on.

I guess I wouldn't fight a server merge, but I'm not particularly discontented with the current situation. I think it has led to people being more helpful than in the past.

[Dragoy]

You say "wow clone" in a derogatory context, but the fact is, while there are some things many people don't like about it, there are things it did do well, and those things are why it was so successful.

I tend to think these things like this, or something like this: in a way, alcohol, tobacco, and the likes, are successful.

Does it make them a good thing?

Things done well, sure, when one looks at them in a certain way. While World of Warcraft may have its 'good things', it's probably addictive, too, which I guess makes it a good game at least in some way. This is no doubt one of the reasons many 'clones' exist, and why Yoshida, too, stated that they copied WoW on certain things. Billions of dung beetles can't be wrong, right? Or so one might say... Opinions, and all that.

While that might not be the bestest of comparisons, as those things are probably more useful (no offence intended), it seemed fit in describing a population with a similar want. As with most things, they can't please each and every one of us; I personally haven't been interested in a modern game for ages it feels, and possibly never will be! This goes for X|V just as well. I was probably more interested in it during it's very first αlpha phase, even though it was as broken as it was.

While I do sort of doubt it to be as similar as a clone, I have not personally played WoW, and am not planning to do so, and for that reason I can't really say much about that. I do feel like describing FFX|V as its clone is a bit much, but I do also think that I understand the meaning of it when people call it one.

Point probably being that, while a thing may be successful and the majority may think it's good, there will be some that don't fancy that thing, and instead, go from flower to flower...


As for the server merging, I don't think it would necessarily be a good thing now, although I may have thought differently some time before. I don't think I have much say in it, however, as I'm not one of the majority(?) who does things that require lots of fellow players around. :S

Who knows. Perhaps they'll create servers targeting specific regions where people can move for free (once), instead of forcing them together, having the more populated time-range become suffocated (probably not quite that bad, but eh). It's not a new thought here, I think, but it is an unlikely one to become reality.

Probably.

What was I talking about again? Nothing!

[Afania]

IMO, XIV is largely its own thing, not like either XI or WoW. You say "wow clone" in a derogatory context, but the fact is, while there are some things many people don't like about it, there are things it did do well, and those things are why it was so successful.

IMO, ARR doesn't try anything different, and that's the main reason why I don't like it. You can keep what makes the game successful AND still try to be different. GW2 tried to be different with the battle system/class system, while keeping the accessability from WoW, and in the end I enjoyed it. SWTOR is mostly WoW clone, but it tried very hard when it comes to story telling aspect, in the end I enjoyed the story at least. Warhammer seems like a WoW clone, but fundamentally it's a PVP focused MMO. Those MMO I've played in the past have WoW element but still has it's own thing.


But FFXIV just shamlessly copy everything from WoW, from holy trinity to battle system. And it doesn't even copy swimming/exploration/talent tree from WoW. I try to find something unique in FFXIV, and I just couldn't find it. Everytime when I see ppl said "FFXIV ins't wow clone", they often fail to tell me exactly what makes FFXIV unique....besides job change and FF element. Considering job change has smaller impact than games like FFT or FFXI, I don't really consider job change a selling point in XIV either.

So many ppl want to say ffxi is its own incarnation and fight that to the point where they don't seem to realize ffxi is an EQ clone.

1. FFXI is still less of an EQ clone, FFXIV is closer to what WoW is.

2. The point is there aren't many EQ clone on the market that I'm tired of playing more, there are countless WoW clones on the market. At this point of time I've played so damn many MMO that follows quest based lving, skill rotations and holy trinity. I don't mind playing an EQ clone or "insert your none wow title" clone, because it's different. But I don't want to play another WoW clone anymore unless it has something very unique.

It's just how entertainment goes, you want something different when you play games/read books/watch movies, not something exactly the same as previous titles.