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    Quote Originally Posted by Griblit View Post
    Reforge all this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    First, the equipment we are currently planning to make upgradeable is the reward equipment from Rala Waterways, Cirdas Cavern, and Yorcia Weald skirmishes. You’ll be able to perform the final upgrade to item level 119 with the new skirmishes that are to be added.

    Besides these items, we do not have any plans to upgrade other equipment with item levels. Also, we’ll be introducing brand-new rewards in the skirmishes to be added after the next round.
    In regards to upgrading gear from Skirmish. Can we please have the new skirmish gear be upgradeable in a similar system to delve? And the same for all other content going forward that will be augmented? Random augmenting is a horrible system and it doesn't prolong the life of your content. You get players who are willing to spend millions of gil on the upgrade items and ones like myself who will try a few times and give up because I know in a month or two. It'll be worthless so why do it.

    With upgradeable paths for different stats you still prolong content because you give a very obtainable goal through hard work. And if you make the paths different and vary enough, you can make it so players are encouraged to make multiples of one item. Static progression is much more enjoyable than random progression, especially in this age of vertical progression in gear. Let us enjoy the gear at max for awhile, instead of the unlucky and impoverished finally getting max augments only to find it's about to get upgraded and wiped out.
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    Greetings,

    Below is a follow-up comment from Akihiko Matsui in regards to adjustments related to items and content.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akihiko_Matsui
    Please stop basing all of the adjustments around Ochain
    Matsui here.

    When creating content, the development team play tests over and over for adjustment purposes, but they actually do not use Ochain, Daurdabla, or other similar equipment.

    We adjust content so that even without RME weapons you are able to clear it as long as you have equipment with a high enough item level. This goes the same for extremely difficult content. (Naturally it’s not easy since it’s extremely difficult…)

    With that said though, the people who are recruiting for parties may feel the responsibility of “we can’t lose!” and are searching for a safer party setup.

    While this is a difficult issue, we would like to make it so you can all play more easily by working on things from various angles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,
    Below is a follow-up comment from Akihiko Matsui in regards to adjustments related to items and content.

    When creating content, the development team play tests over and over for adjustment purposes, but they actually do not use Ochain, Daurdabla, or other similar equipment.
    I would love nothing more than to watch Matsui and his party attempt Very Difficult AA's (ESPECIALLY if he were to tank it using RUN)...
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    The problem I see is that the Emp/Relic instruments and shields are seemingly sacred cows that can never be allowed to be surpassed or even equaled, while most every other piece of equipment that I can think of has a viable alternative. I get that the devs painted themselves into a corner by making the instruments and shields so overpowered, but it seems like it's the players who are paying the price for it. What's even more a slap in the face is that at first it looked like Killedar would be made into a rival for Ochain, but the proposed stats were dialed back for whatever reason. I just don't get it.
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    If you knew what just an absolute pain it was to obtain Ochain, fighting with a thousand other people over t2 pops, and being denied color changes literally, hundreds of times... you might see why making something FREE on par or better than Ochain, would just be insane.

    Obviously new things replace old things and make old things easier, etc. But souls are still the biggest time:reward sink ever created.... (barring alexandrite and plates)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karah View Post
    If you knew what just an absolute pain it was to obtain Ochain, fighting with a thousand other people over t2 pops, and being denied color changes literally, hundreds of times... you might see why making something FREE on par or better than Ochain, would just be insane.
    Trust me, I've helped with enough peoples' souls that I should have my own Ochain by now. No one should have to go through all that just to make a job work. It's a disservice to the player base as a whole.

    Obviously new things replace old things and make old things easier, etc. But souls are still the biggest time:reward sink ever created.... (barring alexandrite and plates)
    And? You know that the real reason SE hasn't obsoleted the shields and instruments is because they're overpowered. It has nothing to do with their respect of your efforts.
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    Colorless soul farming is soul crushing...

    And part of the reason the level 90 version is so good is because blocking wise both rate and dmg there is no difference between the 90 and 99 versions.


    It should also be noted that ochain isn't even right now currently the best shield for blocking in the game for all situations. In dmg reduced per block it's actually slightly lower than koenig. That's right per block a cheap crafted lvl 75 shield blocks more dmg. And both aegis and killedar (and probably alot of the newer ilvl shields) block waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more dmg per block. The main thing is outside of the new ilvl ones and ochain blockrate is capped down around 65% without palisade/reprisal iirc. So overall dmg blocked is more with ochain/ilvl shields. That said iirc killedar already is fairly close to ochains overall block dmg on ~110 content and higher with block rate increases


    Speaking of ilvl shields... does anyone know if eminent has some kind of hidden effect? All the weapons got latents which is what mainly boosted them to being better than the 115s.... but with just the visible stats eminent appears to be vastly inferior to killedar despite the same ilvl
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    Last edited by dasva; 01-20-2014 at 02:26 PM.

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    Speaking as a Carnwenhan 119, Gjallarhorn 99, Daurdabla 90(working way to 99). A new 3 song instrument without any buff to Daurdabla is a slap in the face. As a career brd I strived to be the best bard possible. But if SE is going to make easier to get instruments, just because people want 3 songs brds, you'll get fewer and fewer career brds. Just because you have 3 songs doesn't make a good brd, you still need to know how to utilize it well from timing, song orders and priorities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VoiceMemo View Post
    Speaking as a Carnwenhan 119, Gjallarhorn 99, Daurdabla 90(working way to 99). A new 3 song instrument without any buff to Daurdabla is a slap in the face. As a career brd I strived to be the best bard possible. But if SE is going to make easier to get instruments, just because people want 3 songs brds, you'll get fewer and fewer career brds. Just because you have 3 songs doesn't make a good brd, you still need to know how to utilize it well from timing, song orders and priorities.
    So as a pro bard, you have nothing to fear then.
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