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    Player Catmato's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    I would be infuriated if I was told they are forever useless, toss them, then 6 months later get a "Good news, in the next version update your elemental magian gear will be upgradeable through a new..."
    Please tell me I'm not the only one still holding out for this.
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    Either one works, but either way they need to do something. If a 3 song instrument is introduced, which I have no issue with personally, it will essentially make the Empyrean 90 nothing more than an upgrade for duration, which is by no means a bad thing, but its going to annoy some, make others angry, and make the last upgrade all the more important, which I very much agree with you about I believe.
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    I'm still supridsed that even with I level sheilds now, Aegis and Ochain were not part of the RME weapon sets (unless its part of the armor sets) getting reforged to ilev119. Even if they dont want to change the stats on them. Would any additional +sheild skill added to those two make a difference in how they would function?
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    I'd like to see voidwatch armor sets be reforged/upgraded. It's the only ways to get people to actually do voidwatch. I'd be happy to lead some runs but there is zero point because it takes so long to get enough people with triggers and the rewards are not worth it. People are not paying enough for plates for it to be worthwhile. ALSO - the pulse armor is the nicest looking gear in the game. It seems stupid to leave it functionally worthless. Even if VW armor just could be taken to 117 or something that would be nice and help fill out options. There are some interesting gear pieces and since they can be used for several jobs they would be nice to have. If they made the upgrade items for voidwatch gear mostly be obtained THROUGH voidwatch it would be even better. Especially if it was just one kind of item used to upgrade all gears so we don't have to collect 2000 different kinds of do dad.
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    Actually dood On our server we're doing Morta 6-7x daily... and there was a stretch of Qilin while Luloo was obtaining 1500 plates.

    Bred Briste or Jaqen shouts morta every couple hours atm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karah View Post
    Actually dood On our server we're doing Morta 6-7x daily... and there was a stretch of Qilin while Luloo was obtaining 1500 plates.

    Bred Briste or Jaqen shouts morta every couple hours atm.
    You mean the ones where they just zerg it to death as fast as humanly possible, without any triggers because they just want the fast merits for ark angel pops? Cause the single plates that can drop, with only lucky/accidental triggers ain't exactly flooding the market.
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    No...?

    99% of them are capped, they don't go out of their way to bring loljobs like blu smn pup bst dnc so you cant ALWAYS get time:reward ratio 100% but 99% it's closeenough.jpg
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    Player Kimjongil's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonjustin View Post
    I'm not exactly sure I would call it laziness. At 1500 plates even at a 18 person party and a 33%~ish drop rate on singles as we have now you are looking at roughly 500 fights average. Going by pouch mobs it would be something more like a 5% drop with an average of 10 plates inside puts you at an average of roughly 170 fights. This is all assuming 18 player parties as well, if you are talking about 6-maning these fights then your looking at triple the rates, so 500~1500 fights.

    As I said, I do not think laziness is exactly what I would call it, in a day and age when people did VW a lot and most people did not need plates, these trials still sucked, but they were more realistic because there was at very least some amount of supply, but today, when no one does VW really and the plate supply is near non-existent? 1500 plates is ludicrous.

    I think its a joke a lvl 90 ochain pld is best shield in game. Most pkds dont upgrade it and no shield has outclassed it ilvl.
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    Player Kimjongil's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louispv View Post
    I don't even know how to respond to this jibberish. Yes people are making them, that doesn't make it a good idea. I don't get how I'm contradicting myself when I point out that among all the 119 weapons, the empyrians are both the crappiest, AND the most expensive and difficult to get. When mythics end up cheaper than empyrians, there's a bit of an issue. Especially when the issue isn't difficult content that people aren't able to do because they suck, but old outdated content no one wants to do because it's pointless.

    For instance, why would your friend waste his time making a 119 Caladbolg, when he could have got a 119 Ragnarok, and a 119 Apocalypse, both superior weapons, for the same price? Or make any at all when he can do potentially 1 ark angel fight and get a Tunglmyrkvi that is still far better than the caladbolg? Or go to the AH and buy a Senbaak Nagan for 3 million which is about equal? What is the point of the cheapier, easier, crappier alternative to relics, when they've become the more difficult, more expensive, crappier alternative to relics?
    While I agree their is little insensitive to go from 90 to 119 on many weapons, I would disagree that people who do comete it are stupid or dumb.

    Many people complete emoy ar mythic weapons to 119 for love of there job or personal satasification.

    I do feel empys should be buffed somehow. Maybe 20% more potency for club, staff or something. Or even add occult to aftermath for tp gain. I don't know. But many people can unlock empy and do mire dmg with the ws on relic mythric or even aa weapons. And many more weapons will come.
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    Player Griblit's Avatar
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    RDM Lv 99
    I think the important thing that needs to happen at this point, is to take all the different kinds of gear we've worked for over the years, and reforge it all so its all iLVL 119, to be equal with each other.

    That way people can keep busy reforging, and mixing and matching stuff. Then we can wear our favorite gear, and it will all be on par. Of course minor differences here and there will be necessary, like macroing in for augments and different situations, etc...

    Reforge all this!

    1. AF
    2. Relic
    3. Empy
    4. Salvage
    5. Abjurations
    6. Sky stuff
    7. Limbus
    8. Nyzul Isle
    9. Assault
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