Future Plans for Equipment

[Kimjongil]

O think it is a smart move on SE to outdate 90 Ochains and instruments. I mean think about it, if your main job was brd or pld why should of you bought SOA? As a company SE wants to sell copies of the expansion, but there was nothing to offer a pld or brd. In addition they could just bought lvl 117 weapons on the AH. So to sell copies they should of had something to offer these two jobs long ago.

As a 119 R/E owner I did feel annoyed that I had to 119 my weapons but lvl 90 was ok for those two jobs.

Thank you SE.

Now just upgrade empy armor.

[Martel]

O think it is a smart move on SE to outdate 90 Ochains and instruments. I mean think about it, if your main job was brd or pld why should of you bought SOA? As a company SE wants to sell copies of the expansion, but there was nothing to offer a pld or brd. In addition they could just bought lvl 117 weapons on the AH. So to sell copies they should of had something to offer these two jobs long ago.

As a 119 R/E owner I did feel annoyed that I had to 119 my weapons but lvl 90 was ok for those two jobs.

Thank you SE.

Now just upgrade empy armor.

Except they haven't outdated Ochain in the slightest. Just narrowed the gap between it and the next best shield somewhat.

As a 90 Ochain owner, I'm annoyed that the upgrade to 99 is nearly pointless. And that there isn't even a 119 at all. -.- I'd much rather there have been some benefit to taking Ochain up to 99. But it's just not worth the gil just to get a few points of VIT and a bit more mp convert.

[Kimjongil]

Except they haven't outdated Ochain in the slightest. Just narrowed the gap between it and the next best shield somewhat.

As a 90 Ochain owner, I'm annoyed that the upgrade to 99 is nearly pointless. And that there isn't even a 119 at all. -.- I'd much rather there have been some benefit to taking Ochain up to 99. But it's just not worth the gil just to get a few points of VIT and a bit more mp convert.

I agree with you a 99 Ochain should have had more benefit over 90. Same for most empys. As an empy staff and club holder I feel II got shafted with WOE, and just unlock it. But If I was a pld what do I have to look forward to in SoA. Brd, same.

SO for those 90 shield and brd owners, the new gear is 30 lvls over what most of you have, as most are not 99. Of course it should be better.

[Calatilla]

I was happy to be whatever the party wanted on VW, playing on the back-line didn't mean I got any less rewards, I'd much rather "back-line Blu" than "not-invited Blu".

I remember back when Blu first came out, many, many times I'd end up going Blu/Whm and curing/debuffing, because there weren't enough Whms and Rdms to go around and it may not have been optimal but I remember it being far better than I expected the first time I tried it.

My only gripe about proc-blu was having to change my spells mid-fight to cover them all if I was the only one. >.>

But yeah, at the end of the day, I think most people just want to be able to participate in these events, even if they might not get to do it the way they want. I mean Schs are invited to Delve for stuns and nothing else, but I think generally they're happy to get to go at all, rather than just having nothing to do now that embrava's nerfed. And I'm pretty sure Smns long for the day when they got to Perfect Defense endgame things cuz at least that meant they got to go Smn even if they might've secretly wished they were there just do damage primarily instead of support.

I agree with everything you said, I was just saying the reason it was and still is to a point, hard to find a blu for VW is because if you're on BLU you want to DD not be relegated to the backlines. If however you put in your shout that you already have 1 BLU, its much easier to find a 2nd blu. Spell swapping mid fight is a pain as you said, even more so when the DD`s just zerg everything then complain "y u no get white proc!" when u said 15 times, i need to set it.

[Calatilla]

I totally get what you're saying and I agree as I said, I didn't mind being a proc-blu to VW, sometimes I prefer it because I can just idle away in the background. But the point I`m trying to make is that a lot of BLU's will not reply to a shout asking for BLU because they don't want to be proc-blu they want to be DD BLU,which is why its difficult to find one.

If VW Procs were more like Abyssea procs, where it's just one spell per element it would be much easier to cover all procs with 1 BLU and still have potential to DD.

It would be nice to have more BLU's like you Olor, who are just happy to come BLU, but that isn't usually the case.

[Olor]

yeah I honestly found it to be one of the most relaxing endgame activities because with spells set I was so gimp (especially /pld) that no one could possibly expect me to do anything but cycle procs and maybe use a AOE temp here or there

[Olor]

lol "easy to get" - as I said earlier - this harp will only be easy to get for the people that need it the least (AKA those people who already have all wins etc). Folks like me, who would like to help bard up the world, are completely locked out. I have 0 delve wins and, being in a small social shell and having limited playtime, I will be like that for awhile. Should have been something that folks not already finished with current endgame could get so you know, we could actually DO current endgame. Fail SE, fail.

[VoiceMemo]

lol "easy to get" - as I said earlier - this harp will only be easy to get for the people that need it the least (AKA those people who already have all wins etc). Folks like me, who would like to help bard up the world, are completely locked out. I have 0 delve wins and, being in a small social shell and having limited playtime, I will be like that for awhile. Should have been something that folks not already finished with current endgame could get so you know, we could actually DO current endgame. Fail SE, fail.

Getting 1 win from 1st tier of delve or 1 win from 2nd tier of delve or 1 win from SCKNM on normal or very hard is hard? SE already gimped delve to be 6 manable with the HP reduction of NMs dependant on how many people enter. Unless this is the first year you've played you should have made a few friends by now that you could team up with to 6 man delves or 6 man SKCNM on normal.

With limited playtime(ie only able to play 3-4) days a week, I was able to gather all the alex to finish my mythic farming salvage. Though it took me 4 years to get all the alex having it, I consider it well worth the time spent.

Ok, so lets assume you have a win already from an original Delve or from AAs, that leaves the Pelt, Harp, Shofar, and 150 items. Now, everything below is Phoenix prices.

Ebony Harp - 80~100k
Shofar - 250~300k
Cehuetzi Pelt - 7~7.8M
150 P/B/B - 10k or so each.

Add this all up, you get roughly 9M. I don't know about you but to me that seems like a lot of gil for a player without the ability to get into Delve or other pieces of high end content due to lack of a harp with the proper amount of songs able to be cast with it.

As for the synthesis why not gather materials and contact people witht he required synthesis levels. Usually if you gather materials the synth price becomes much cheaper than the result. Yes you do have to risk the chance of failing the synth and the time it takes to gather the materials. But if you lack gil this is a viable alternative. Or you could farm items, sell and build the gil up to buy the result. There are many ways to the solution, it all depends on what you can do and what you are willing to do.

As for pluton/riftborn/beititsu. Records of Eminence has been out since Dec 11, 2013. IF you have done the limited time trials only once per day since that has been out you would have 119 vouchers as of April 8th. Limited time trials only take at most 30 min to complete(this was the seal one but now faster as all seals are counted) 119 vouchers is 59 of the relic reforge items. Over 1/3 the amount of the 150 requirement.

If it doesn't take time, it takes gil. This has always been the case. You either spend alot of time(FFXI is a game about the long term) or spend high amounts of gil to bypass the time requirement. Everything in the game can be accomplished with time.

You don't have to spend gil to get what you want, you can spend time. Keep trying, lead the runs and learn the strategies. Ask friends for help, this is a MMORPG that requires teamwork.

That guy is just salty cause he doesn't have a 99 harp.

As for my progress to 99 Daurdabla. As I tell others, why are you so concerned about MY gear. I'll get to 99 eventually but at my pace and my terms. If your so concerned about MY gear you should give me HMP and cinders. I choose not to rush because I've known so may people who back in the 75 days finished relic, used it for a month or so then quit the game because they had nothing left to accomplish. I doubt I'd quit but it has occurred to me that once I finish 99 Daurdabla, there really isn't anything left for me to do as brd. So what would be my motivation as brd.

Many things are way easier now. Back in '07-'09 when I was doing Gjallarhorn there still was dynamis hourglass cost. Dynamis still required alot of manpower to farm efficiently. Currency was 10k-12k each. If you want something work for it, make gil, get wins. Keep trying you may fail alot, treat each loss as a learning experience and build upon it. But above all keep trying. The journey is what counts and when you do get the wins, they will be that much more satisfying.

[detlef]

As for my progress to 99 Daurdabla. As I tell others, why are you so concerned about MY gear. I'll get to 99 eventually but at my pace and my terms. If your so concerned about MY gear you should give me HMP and cinders. I choose not to rush because I've known so may people who back in the 75 days finished relic, used it for a month or so then quit the game because they had nothing left to accomplish. I doubt I'd quit but it has occurred to me that once I finish 99 Daurdabla, there really isn't anything left for me to do as brd. So what would be my motivation as brd.

Many things are way easier now. Back in '07-'09 when I was doing Gjallarhorn there still was dynamis hourglass cost. Dynamis still required alot of manpower to farm efficiently. Currency was 10k-12k each. If you want something work for it, make gil, get wins. Keep trying you may fail alot, treat each loss as a learning experience and build upon it. But above all keep trying. The journey is what counts and when you do get the wins, they will be that much more satisfying.

I never would have had one inkling of what your gear was if you hadn't posted it for anybody to see. Look, you have a Ghorn 99 and a Carn 119. You should have a Daurdabla 99 already, and it should have been done before the Mythic. That's all there is to it. You simply cannot call yourself a career BRD, then make a Carn before finishing Daurdabla to 99, and then complain when SE introduces an easy 3-song alternative. It's just not logical. And that's all I'm gonna say about that.

Also, just because you complete your BRD goals doesn't mean the game is over and you've won. Maybe you strive for perfect gear. Maybe you work on another job. Maybe you... cap job points? Someone I knew sponsored our LS dynamis for a year, finished his Yoichi, and then quit within a couple weeks. Don't be that guy, it's a slap in the face for whoever helped you.

As for your other point, I'm pretty much in agreement. The harp is pretty straightforward to make, and anybody can do it. Although unlike you, I think it should be that way. It means that I can make a harp on my mule. It means that others in my linkshell who are not RME BRDs can still play the job competently and I might get to come on something different. The reasonable baseline for the job just got a little higher and that's good for the playerbase as a whole.

[VoiceMemo]

I never would have had one inkling of what your gear was if you hadn't posted it for anybody to see. Look, you have a Ghorn 99 and a Carn 119. You should have a Daurdabla 99 already, and it should have been done before the Mythic. That's all there is to it. You simply cannot call yourself a career BRD, then make a Carn before finishing Daurdabla to 99, and then complain when SE introduces an easy 3-song alternative. It's just not logical. And that's all I'm gonna say about that.

Where is it written that Daurdabla must be made to 99 before Carnwenhan is obtained? Do I not have the choice to go in the order I wish to? I said before that it'll get there but on MY terms. You saying that I should have done Daudabla before Carnwenhan and that I'm not a career brd is your opinion and your right to say so. But I've played brd some 9 years so I consider myself a career brd. The order of which that I complete items is my business and no one else.

As for quitting, it's unlikely that that would happen. Dynamis wise I've helped I believe at least 10 others since I've finished Gjallarhorn to complete relics. I go to team dyna runs just to help out, I solo dynamis and just give away all my currency to those that are working on it in my ls. But again that is MY choice, and others should respect my choice. Your welcome to disagree with the opinion but you should respect my choice in the matter since there is nothing written in stone telling you that you MUST do it this way.