Reforged AF - Blocked on Step 1?

[Lithera]

Yay the op found out what was wrong. Should there have been something in the quest that said you needed sea? Sure but then this is XI not XIV where they pretty much hold your hand in every quest to the point your map is even marked. You don't need 119 af right now go get skirmish gear or other just as easy to obtain gear. Right now the only reason I see why we even have 119 af is because of the Q.Qing about geo and run base af is already up there. To me you're worse than the people in XIV who are constantly Q.Qing about not having things to do because they've rushed to the end again.

[Demonjustin]

If you haven't completed the story for the game you're playing you don't deserve (ANY) rewards from it.

Like I said on page one, be thankful you aren't FORCED to obtain the +1 set before reforging at all.

Firstly, RF is not a reward from CoP, and as I have repeatedly said, there are no connections between CoP & RF except for the ability to upgrade from +1 to RF if you choose, but its an optional path, which you can avoid by simply upgrading your regular AF, so in that respect its not a reward from a story which you have not completed.

Secondly, I really don't care about your opinion much anymore Karah, you make such poor arguments for everything, like this one, being thankful they didn't do something even worse does not make what they did better, thats one of the weakest arguments anyone can ever use, almost as bad as the slippery slope 'why not just send it to your delivery box' argument people use. The problem with arguments like that is anything can be made to look good, like 'be thankful the repop on ToAU kings isn't 3 months' or 'be thankful Empyreans do not require 15000 plates rather than 1500' just because it could be worse doesn't mean that what we have is good nor that we should just accept it for what it is and never complain. Yes, we did not have to upgrade to +1, yay, but in all honesty I'll say if we did, at very least this requirement of Sea access would make more sense, instead, it makes no sense, and is seemingly a pointless restriction placed with no real need.

Right now the only reason I see why we even have 119 af is because of the Q.Qing about geo and run base af is already up there.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong but I believe since before the release of RUN & GEO AF they had stated they had intentions to implement upgraded versions of previous AF gear, which would mean it was not due to our complaints, it was planned from the start.

People complained because they found it stupid, and many still do, that the two newest jobs get no AF at 40/52~60 when every other job does, and rather, SE simply implemented them at a high level to begin with, making it less enjoyable for people to level. In all honesty, since that time, I have changed my stance on it from it being a good idea, to a bad idea, because now anyone doing those quests can hardly get help since the method is so vastly different than that of the RF for any other job that they have no relation, and are mostly unable to be soloed. Either way, that is another topic all together.

[Lithera]

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong but I believe since before the release of RUN & GEO AF they had stated they had intentions to implement upgraded versions of previous AF gear, which would mean it was not due to our complaints, it was planned from the start.

People complained because they found it stupid, and many still do, that the two newest jobs get no AF at 40/52~60 when every other job does, and rather, SE simply implemented them at a high level to begin with, making it less enjoyable for people to level. In all honesty, since that time, I have changed my stance on it from it being a good idea, to a bad idea, because now anyone doing those quests can hardly get help since the method is so vastly different than that of the RF for any other job that they have no relation, and are mostly unable to be soloed. Either way, that is another topic all together.

I don't think they did though until people complained that it was unfair that geo and run were getting their af that was an ilv equal to other things from SoA. I know they said we would be getting more armour just not AF until after. It has been a long time for me since I read those threads so I still could be wrong. People's main complaints wasn't really that it was stupid but more that SE's reasoning for when they got their AF didn't go with the previous 20 other jobs and the level people were allowed to get them along with the huge lack of gear lower than 75 to use if one didn't go and burn those jobs to 99.

Back to the main complaint in the thread and about having to do old content just so you can obtain said new gear. It's CoP which like many have said is easily done solo for the most part and is not JP midnight heavy as say ToA where there are literally JP midnight stops after viewing just a CS. Or at least there used to be can't remember if they took those out or not.
Also it wouldn't be XI if the game suddenly started to actually be usefull when accepting a quest from an npc. Now if there was no oh btw you need to have gotten to sea on the wikis for this quest then yeah bad form. SE has always wanted people to go do old content they just have had a bad time coming up with usefull reasons why. It's funny that when they come up with an idea that is useful in end game people still cry.