Reforged AF - Blocked on Step 1?

[detlef]

I missed the part where there was a complaint about not being able to get CoP/Limbus rewards. Last I knew, the Reforged gear had 0 relation to Limbus except for their arbitrary requirement for having Sea access even though every item can be obtained through either quests or the AH, none of which exclusively comes from anything CoP related. Also, many Dynamis armors can be obtained without Dynamis access via the slips now days so to say the rewards should only come from the content isn't quite accurate either, though I am sure the argument will be made that those are old obsolete pieces now days, which is true, but not the point.

It's a fair point that you don't need to step foot into Limbus to acquire any of the items necessary to upgrade AF to 119. However, it's no different from when SE required players to have the VW progress in order to redeem pulse items (I believe the vast majority of players felt that this was a fair requirement).

Basically, SE wants players to obtain the items in a way that doesn't bypass CoP. I believe that it's fair for them to expect this of us.

[Demonjustin]

It's a fair point that you don't need to step foot into Limbus to acquire any of the items necessary to upgrade AF to 119. However, it's no different from when SE required players to have the VW progress in order to redeem pulse items (I believe the vast majority of players felt that this was a fair requirement).

I believe this comparison is unfair, Pulse Cells come from VW, thus, to use them you had to have VW progress. Now, if there were Pulse Cells for Sagasinger or the Meeble/Legion weapons, items that are completely unrelated to VW in any way, yet at the same time you required VW access all the same to use the Cells, I would think the comparison more fair. As it stands, VW and RF are not the same on the basis that Cells are from VW only, whereas everything required for RF/+1 can be obtained outside of Sea with or without buying anything from the AH at all.

[detlef]

I believe this comparison is unfair, Pulse Cells come from VW, thus, to use them you had to have VW progress. Now, if there were Pulse Cells for Sagasinger or the Meeble/Legion weapons, items that are completely unrelated to VW in any way, yet at the same time you required VW access all the same to use the Cells, I would think the comparison more fair. As it stands, VW and RF are not the same on the basis that Cells are from VW only, whereas everything required for RF/+1 can be obtained outside of Sea with or without buying anything from the AH at all.

Either way, you can obtain all the items you need any way you want, but you still need some sort of progress in something to turn them in. Are we going to also argue that it's unfair because the ilvl 119 pieces require synthesis materials from AA fights that require Zilart missions to access?