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    Do you think that if you start another MMO now, it will just let you get a high-end item without some sort of progress?
    Actually, yes, most MMORPGs allow you to skip old content. When new expansions or tiers of content release, old content is made skippable and irrelevant, so you can play the new content without being held back by old content.

    You want to summon Alexander, then fight him as a Boss
    Then let me fight him without going through a ton of time gated quests first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crevox View Post
    Then let me fight him without going through a ton of time gated quests first.
    I say just remove the JPM wait times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crevox View Post
    Then let me fight him without going through a ton of time gated quests first.
    I'd agree on the removal of JPM, but won't agree to letting you fight the LAST @#%*ing boss of a story arch without going through it. >_<
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    my new character which is account is based on literally has not stepped foot in Dynamis, completed rank 3, or even hit level 50, yet on a whim I have access to the Relic Body & Head for RDM which are by far the most important pieces of that entire set, and in reality, the only two pieces that have not been replaced for the job as of yet.
    I don't get it, what items from the login campaign allow you to get relic armor, or have anything to do with it?
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    Mog Kupon A-Bcd & Mog Kupon A-Xar though it seems they aren't in this one and weren't in the last one either, apologies, they were in the first 5 in a row but it seems that 6 & 7 lack them.
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    Reforged is tied to AF+1, because it is cheaper to upgrade AF+1 than AF to reforged. The NPCs are tied together. They're trying to give incentive to upgrading the pieces through Limbus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bungiefanNA View Post
    Reforged is tied to AF+1, because it is cheaper to upgrade AF+1 than AF to reforged. The NPCs are tied together. They're trying to give incentive to upgrading the pieces through Limbus.
    Incentive was given, some people will choose to upgrade to +1 and go with that cheaper cost, I myself did when it was originally released, however, it should be a choice. RF is not tied to Limbus, AF+1 is, the fact people can upgrade either AF or AF+1 to RF means the requirement should be open to everyone, if you want to upgrade without having done CoP & getting to Sea you should be free to do so, you will have to use more Rem's, but thats a cost you choose to pay, besides the optional AF+1 upgrade however there are no connections between RF & Limbus, and since thats optional and you can completely avoid it by simply using normal AF gear in the transaction, it should not be a requirement.
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    I don't see any problem with the pre-reqs as they are. Not like the content is difficult anymore anyway.
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    But the fact that RF Is irrefutably tied to AF+1, whether you yourself have gotten it or not, makes sense why the NPC needs to be tied to the AF+1 npc, who doesn't give the option to +1 it until the progression. Who knows what wrenches would be thrown into the code by tying it to the AF+1 but not the NPC which gives those upgrades in the first place, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twille View Post
    I don't see any problem with the pre-reqs as they are. Not like the content is difficult anymore anyway.
    Part of why it makes no sense to force it, its a meaningless time sink at this point because it takes so little effort due to its level, the reason its so annoying is because the hardest and most time taking part is running around & getting CSs, oh boy, fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by SilentSteel View Post
    But the fact that RF Is irrefutably tied to AF+1, whether you yourself have gotten it or not, makes sense why the NPC needs to be tied to the AF+1 npc, who doesn't give the option to +1 it until the progression.
    No, it really doesn't since its not a requirement, there is literally no need to tie them together at all, its a choice they made, and a bad one, but I am tired of arguing the same things over and over again when no one is paying attention it seems or just doesn't care, so fk it.
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