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    Player Renaissance2K's Avatar
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    Chains of Promathia's mission storyline was nice in that it trickled out rewards and unlocks as you went along.

    The zones that were released with that expansion pack are still some of the coolest in the game. There's a lot of rich content and many small stylistic goodies that the development team hasn't quite repeated with the areas that were released since. Riverne, Lufaise Meadows, and Al'taieu are all really, really cool, and the central structures in Sea (especially with the music) really do a good job of making the last few missions feel like a crawl through a traditional "final dungeon" crawl in an old Final Fantasy game.

    That's assuming you don't just unlock Sea and quit.

    I have to ask... If you're not interested in working your way through long, detailed storylines, what about Final Fantasy XI appealed to you? I don't suspect you're a fan of the franchise, given that many of the design choices you seem to dislike are hallmarks of the series as a whole. I don't suspect you're just an MMO hound, given that FFXI hasn't been the flavor of the month since WoW was released. There's plenty of other MMOs out there that are faster, cheaper, and have a more user base.

    I'm not trying to shove out a new user, especially not these days. I'm genuinely curious as to why you started out with a game that puts such emphasis on exploration and lore when you don't seem to have the patience for how they were implemented.
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    If you decide to go through CoP, could you do me a favor? Back when I did it with the level caps, they mentioned a restriction on Phonemia Aquaducts in order to weaken the monsters. (storyline reason for game mechanic). I'm wondering if the line is still there and makes no sense anymore, or if it has been removed completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xantavia View Post
    If you decide to go through CoP, could you do me a favor? Back when I did it with the level caps, they mentioned a restriction on Phonemia Aquaducts in order to weaken the monsters. (storyline reason for game mechanic). I'm wondering if the line is still there and makes no sense anymore, or if it has been removed completely.
    I'm pretty sure that dialogue is still there.
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    I'm not trying to shove out a new user, especially not these days. I'm genuinely curious as to why you started out with a game that puts such emphasis on exploration and lore when you don't seem to have the patience for how they were implemented.
    There is a TON of stuff to do in this game. I want to explore it at my own pace, not be forced to do it for such a silly reason. I planned to do CoP at some point, but now I have to do it in order to get my armor.

    Sorry I don't feel your pain. Took me a forever to find a group
    I don't really care about the past, I'm talking about the right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crevox View Post
    There is a TON of stuff to do in this game. I want to explore it at my own pace, not be forced to do it for such a silly reason. I planned to do CoP at some point, but now I have to do it in order to get my armor.



    I don't really care about the past, I'm talking about the right now.
    I am talking about right now it is so easy and you could most likely do it in a couple of days if it wasn't for the couple of JP midnight waits that there is in CoP. Really you have smn so you get fleet wind to move around even faster. Also if you have any plans of doing AA fights you have better knock out ZM as well which at 75 could be done in 2 to 3 days so at 99 should be even more of a breeze. As for relic I'm not sure if you would have to have rank 6 to upgrade it since you can buy relic armor with login points and once sagheera will talk to you could upgrade it to relic +1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crevox View Post
    There is a TON of stuff to do in this game. I want to explore it at my own pace, not be forced to do it for such a silly reason. I planned to do CoP at some point, but now I have to do it in order to get my armor.



    I don't really care about the past, I'm talking about the right now.
    I did CoP missions in like 1-2 days for my mule ¬.¬, like seriously its not THAT big of an investment, especially now with enhanced movement speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crevox View Post
    There is a TON of stuff to do in this game. I want to explore it at my own pace, not be forced to do it for such a silly reason. I planned to do CoP at some point, but now I have to do it in order to get my armor.
    The biggest problem is that if you upgrade to the top gear before doing the 2nd expansion released, you are removing all challenge from the journey. I was about halfway through the expansion when they removed level caps from the zones and changed the max level to 80. I found the early parts much more memorable and exciting when the wins weren't practically guaranteed. Once the challenge was gone, it felt much more like a checklist of "go here, go there, stomp this mob". But that is just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crevox View Post
    There is a TON of stuff to do in this game. I want to explore it at my own pace, not be forced to do it for such a silly reason. I planned to do CoP at some point, but now I have to do it in order to get my armor.
    Different expansions have different rewards. AF+1 was one reward for progress in CoP. If you want that reward, or an upgrade of it, you need to have that completion. Availability of the materials from an event generally doesn't change the behaviour of PCs that unlock new options when your progress is that far.

    You are forced to progress similarly if you want final boss defeat rewards like Rajas Ring or Suppanomimi. If you want the reward, do the activity the reward is tied to. You don't HAVE to have AF+2 right now.
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    You don't have to beat Cop. Just need to have Sea access, just did it like 3 weeks ago. Took me about 3 days.
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    It's never taken more than 2 runs to obtain any item from limbus. no argument would ever change the fact that you're extremely lucky it wasn't forced.
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