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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenmore View Post
    Again it is those CS that FF11 has left that sets it apart from every other cheap gear grinder and current reforge gear is not that great or must have now...
    I want to reforge my armor not because it's the best but because I want to look like a BST again. See my signature. I want to wear that shirt again.

    Also, everyone likes different things. I'm not asking SE to remove the cutscenes from the game, I'm asking to not be forced to watch them in order to do completely unrelated content that I would like to have access to. Sometimes (rarely) I am in the mood for doing some storyline, but that's very rare. Last night for example, was actually going to work on it, but then friends in the LS needed some help with an NM. Why is it so hard to understand that I would rather spend my time playing with other people than running between cut scenes? Why would the developers want people to have to NOT PLAY WITH THEIR FRIENDS if they want to access current content - it is insane.
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    Because CoP is sooo CS heavy vs some other expansions though I will admit the go see Ulma and come back bits are eye rollers. Though it's not ToA where whole missions were just one quick CS followed by that damn jp midnight bs followed by go past stuff that will still agro a lv 99 to win a bcnm. With reforging of relic coming up are you going to complain that they are probably going to force people to do dynamis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    Because CoP is sooo CS heavy vs some other expansions though I will admit the go see Ulma and come back bits are eye rollers. Though it's not ToA where whole missions were just one quick CS followed by that damn jp midnight bs followed by go past stuff that will still agro a lv 99 to win a bcnm. With reforging of relic coming up are you going to complain that they are probably going to force people to do dynamis?
    Dynamis is battle content. It's different. Also - maybe you have not done COP in a long time but 95% of it is cut scenes.

    I have zero problem with needing to do battle content to get gear. I do have a problem with requiring SIGNIFICANT storyline progress to do battle content. Requiring stuff that takes an hour to do (like getting to mission 3 in conquest or whatever) is fine... requiring a full month of my playtime be spent soloing so I can utilize the rewards of battle content I currently have access to is moronic.

    If I want a reward from doing the COP questline I should have to do COP 0- as it is the mission reward. If I want reforged relic, I should only have to do the battle content and the SPECIFIC QUESTS to get the base pieces. I'm not asking to have anything handed to me, I'm asking to not be roadblocked by something that is completely unrelated to the battle content/gear at issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olor View Post
    Dynamis is battle content. It's different. Also - maybe you have not done COP in a long time but 95% of it is cut scenes.

    I have zero problem with needing to do battle content to get gear. I do have a problem with requiring SIGNIFICANT storyline progress to do battle content. Requiring stuff that takes an hour to do (like getting to mission 3 in conquest or whatever) is fine... requiring a full month of my playtime be spent soloing so I can utilize the rewards of battle content I currently have access to is moronic.
    Compared to WotG CoP is light in the CS department. Also concerning how long you have been playing you had time to already have this done when there were people still doing it. If you don't like playing a game's story line then why did you even start playing in the 1st place? Specially any game coming from a story heavy company like SE. Basically you would be fine with AF reforging if you had to +1 the item first then? As then the you would have the battle content that is linked to CoP have to be done. Or would you still be complaining?
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    To do dyna you HAVE to have mission progression only difference is you have that and you don't have COP plain and simple. And it's is rank 6 to enter dyna not rank 3 which means running all over the world watching CSs or just running though annoying dungeons and other quest to get to the deeper parts of them. Even with limited play time it should take no more then a week at tops to do enough CoP to the point you can enter sea from starting at promys. We have VW warps now, faster movement speed along with HP warps so travel time is cut way down. SE invested a good bit of money into story lines in this game and the CSs and story have been praised over and over as a defining difference between WoW and its many clones. But SE did throw a huge bone in not needing +1 to do reforge so you only have to enter sea.
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    Ravenmore I guess we should be glad they can get the gear from non dreamland dynamis zones. Though by the time you reach sea that point is moot. Along with not having to do any RoZ to do dynamis. Could you imagine the rage there would be if you had to do the 1st expansion and get rank six just to enter dynamis? Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crevox View Post
    Nobody says I want everything for free. I already earned my AF items to trade in, but I can't. I WANT to do AA fights, but again, I can't, because I haven't finished Zilart. I want to do a LOT of things, but I can't because I have not finished all of these stupid fetch quests. I can't even get a party because I don't have Alexander.
    But being able to redeem the items is something that has to be earned. What's wrong with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    But being able to redeem the items is something that has to be earned. What's wrong with that?
    Why is level 99 items and content tied to level 40-70 fetch quests and battles?

    I may know the reason (because it's the sea NPC or whatever) but either way, it doesn't have to be.

    it's a hassle and he doesn't want to do it.
    The amount of time it takes is ridiculous. Like I said, I may be able to tolerate it, but I really don't think my friends will. No one should even have to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crevox View Post
    Why is level 99 items and content tied to level 40-70 fetch quests and battles?
    The best weapons in the game still require tons of level 75 content legwork. It's not specific to ilvl 119 AF.

    Oh and also if your friends aren't willing to do old content they may find themselves running out of things to do really quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    The best weapons in the game still require tons of level 75 content legwork. It's not specific to ilvl 119 AF.
    Relics, Mythics, and Empyrean weapons I can understand. However, I am upgrading my level 50-60 AF to level 99; not upgrading 75, 80, 85, etc.

    They are also much more of an achievement, they should take a large amount of effort. I am perfectly fine with those.

    However, this new AF upgrade... it's just so random to make it still require finishing CoP. They could've made any NPC do the conversion, but it had to be that one.

    Even then, it's not like you're going and gathering tons of materials; you're just doing a gigantic quest line for a boolean status flag saying that you beat CoP. It's just... silly.
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