Delve fights

[Zarchery]

I just don't bother with Delve. What's the point anyway? To get a weapon so that... people will let you do Delve? Seems circular to me.

I dunno about this cookie cutter setup thing with Delve. I did several of them just because I wanted a Delve win to upgrade my Spharai. We never won. We either wiped or ran out of time. I think the reason parties are so cookie cutter is because when you're cobbling together a bunch of strangers, you can't rely on their skills or team work abilities (you don't them well enough) so you have to do the next best thing and go for standardized gear and job configurations.

[Ravenmore]

I just don't bother with Delve. What's the point anyway? To get a weapon so that... people will let you do Delve? Seems circular to me.

I dunno about this cookie cutter setup thing with Delve. I did several of them just because I wanted a Delve win to upgrade my Spharai. We never won. We either wiped or ran out of time. I think the reason parties are so cookie cutter is because when you're cobbling together a bunch of strangers, you can't rely on their skills or team work abilities (you don't them well enough) so you have to do the next best thing and go for standardized gear and job configurations.

The simple reason is it is faster to assume that if they have a delve boss weapon they are good and the leaders don't have the time to question or get a feel of the player so even if the RoE weapon user might have better gear and skills the leader won't have the time to talk to them while having to deal with all the other tell/party/LS chat they have to keep straight.

I have seen many "perfect" set ups and many "not perfect" set ups win. What I have seen doom some of the perfect set ups that were made by pick up groups was not brd/cor swapping cause people on BG said you don't need too. Sure you don't need to if you go with a group of people that have been working together for a long time but for pick up randoms swapping is a must to cover the short comings of the weak, lesser skilled/gear players that only thing they have going for them is they have boss weapons they bought/leeched. After that the next big failing is schs and whms not performing at the level needed to win. Schs and whms are the most important jobs in delve nothing will cause a fail faster then a sch that can't stun in time and whms that can't keep up with healing and stat removal(though the DDs really should carry remedies but we know how that goes).