Quote Originally Posted by Secondplanet View Post
How am i Lazy or being a Diva, I also stated that several times i've done this people have gone out of their way in the party to insure our failure. Like i said, we had a whm do benediction during a big part of the fight with tojil which pulled him into the mage party and wiped us out. I've seen people who were the main result of our failure go up and /em high fives or even mt with a say "that was easy" to other players in town after the failure like its a game to make others fail these.
I believe you are being a diva because you are posting/suggesting/demanding the content be change or eased. when you be learning how to better evaluate the player you choose and your methods in strategy. Based on the fact that you are having trouble defeating it with your methods.

i believe you are being lazy because the content isnt as strong/difficult as it was 8 months ago. Also, the playerbase isnt as weak as they were 8 months ago.

1. most players have notable gear. making that
2. most players have knowledge of strategy and whats expected of them in the strat.
3. most players have experience doing these fights. and know if its going to be a successful based on /check and the time it takes to kill 1-5 NM.
i.e. stunning, healing, and overall dps of each dd.

Hell as you mention, the addition of Eminence weapons even proves the point even more. this is how s.e choose to ease content. add weapons that are comparable in strength and easier to obtain.

Quote Originally Posted by Secondplanet View Post
I've been in groups with monks with oats and I only had my eminence gear and i wasn't only out damaging others who already had their oats and wins i was tanking the whole fight with taking minimum damage compared to them getting killed in 2-3 hits. During this fight we had it down to an art but then someone from the mage side came into the area and stole hate then ran back to the mages. Even after 3 provokes from the monks we were unable to get him back to us and he weakend the mages and all failed from there.
Eminence vs oat. at this point is irrelevant in relation to tojil. as you explained it depends on the players who join and their skill. of course there are alot of other factors that would effect dps. i.e stuns/weakness from lahar, buffs, etc etc

which all boils down to you picking the right ppl. namely this will only happen thru trial and error.

if someone(s) is really out to get you and your groups. then that is still your fault for having such a rep and inviting payers who are out to get you. know your enemies and learn how to better select ppl.

Quote Originally Posted by Secondplanet View Post
I'm not saying its broken but the player base is broken in itself. No body had oats to do these fights at the beginning and why is it such a strict requirement now? Also you saying not everyone will get one and its not for everyone to have is like saying that in the next update everyone without should just quit since everything that has come out since then requires you to have a i119 gear in order to get invited.
its strict because of the reasons you mentioned above. to prevent those mistakes and situations from happening.

what most ppl seem to forget is that. having oatixur shows you hit a milestone, have the ability to follow direction and have some idea what to do.


Quote Originally Posted by Secondplanet View Post
Your story is just weird. Benediction enmity is proportional to HP healed, so depending on the situation, your WHM either saved his PT or Benediction shouldn't have produced enough enmity to pull hate. Also, nobody should be tanking the whole fight. Hate should be bouncing around between the DDs. Under no circumstances should mages pull hate, ever. And you haven't even mentioned your stunners, which are usually the biggest culprit (and easiest to blame, generally).

Just reading your story, I get the impression that not only are your groups failing, you can't even properly identify why they are failing. That's the first step toward success.
i have to second this. i think you just dont know what exactly is going on and are focusing on the wrong thing.