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    Player Bulrogg's Avatar
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    Yeah, at first I thought something was wrong with my cookies and it took me back to some post I had already read when I clicked "unread post" and there will always be trolls so I'll just have to scroll through.

    I just hope people won't get discouraged and not post because of them.

    If we keep tossing out ideas maybe the Devs will see something they like from a few of them and put them together to make something.

    I really did like the perfect parry idea. And then image trickery sounds like a nice way to generate more hate for the ninja. I'm still not convinced Fade would be needed with the way ninja is now but who is to know as the game progresses with level increase and newer content outside of Abyssea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulrogg View Post
    Yeah, at first I thought something was wrong with my cookies and it took me back to some post I had already read when I clicked "unread post" and there will always be trolls so I'll just have to scroll through.

    I just hope people won't get discouraged and not post because of them.

    If we keep tossing out ideas maybe the Devs will see something they like from a few of them and put them together to make something.

    I really did like the perfect parry idea. And then image trickery sounds like a nice way to generate more hate for the ninja. I'm still not convinced Fade would be needed with the way ninja is now but who is to know as the game progresses with level increase and newer content outside of Abyssea.
    i agree with you in the matter that fade is not needed and as I stated the way the the poster described Fade would be unbalanced imo. But i took the idea and applied something that way work like using it as Perfect Evade like Perfect Counter works on mnk, this could seem like something that could be added and not unbalancing at the same time.
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    Player AyinDygra's Avatar
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    Fade was my signifigantly toned down version of FFTactics' Ninja ability: "Abandon" which doubled both physical and magical evasion rates. SE thinks this general concept is part of being a ninja. The implementation may vary.

    The real use is not a permanent boost to evasion, but a way to occasionally have time to recast utsusemi against enemies that have very high accuracy or wipe shadows very quickly. I could see some modification to it, such as only activating as often as Monk's counterattack rather than all the time (based on evasion skill), or cut the evasion bonus in half unless under the effect of Yonin.

    However, I don't think this is a horribly unrealistic or unbalanced trait when you reach the levels when it would be most potent. Just as a point of note: Ninja gets A- evasion skill. Both Dancer and Thief get at least Evasion Bonus III (+35 eva reported) as traits all the time, and while Dancer only has B+ evasion, Thief has A+ evasion and up to Evasion Bonus V (+60 eva reported). Ninja may get more evasion from gear(I didn't check that), but I really don't think it makes this job trait sound as bad as you make it out to be.
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    Last edited by AyinDygra; 03-15-2011 at 08:27 AM.