Realistic Job adjustments wants!

[Shadobi]

Forgive me. I wouldn't have known about this, save that I left my phone open to it. I wil make no excuses. In the surest sense of the word my reaction and words were wrong. You can tell I don't leave many posts, in here or any forum. I read alot but, never post. To be frank I have honestly no idea what a troll is other than the historical sense of the word. I am honestly guessing on the quote thing, well see if I get this right. I would like to say I apologize to Kensagku. I am normally a very quiet person. The only other person I have ever had dealings with on any forum is wish12oz. The information you provided me with has helped my understanding of game mechanics more than you know. I am very sorry if my hostile response has left everyone with a bad taste in regards to me.

Nice post, usually don't see people apologizing.
I learned that the internet makes a lot of brave souls who wouldn't even in reality say two words to you if they saw you.
The flammers I call Voltron because theres always one lion (brave behind a computer talking crap) in always a few join and unite to feel special about themselves and when they do watch out thats when the flaming words(blazing Sword) get you into the mix but use total concentration like Daniel son in you'll me fine.

[JiltedValkyrie]

Job Ability
Kageimono (Poorly Translated: Shadow Casting)
Recast: 10 min.
Duration: 1 min or until an elemental ninjutsu is used.
Effect: Consumes all shadow images to repeat an elemental ninjutsu cast, once per shadow. If you lack sufficient tools, consume all shadows and cast equal to the number of tools available. Each cast is susceptible to resists.
Note: Does not stack with Futae.

Basically this is sort of a boost to Futae, which consumes two tools to add a 50% boost to your elemental nuke. This one instead consumes all of your shadows to recast the same spell, so essentially you can get anywhere from one extra cast (doubled damage if both are unresisted) to five extra casts with AF3+2 feet (6x the damage, assuming all of them go unresisted).

Hopefully this addresses the NIN nuke idea while maintaining a unique niche.

Fortunately, NIN can nuke extremely well and hold tank without ever engaging the mob. This is especially true in Abyssea. SE recently changed ninjutsu skill level to affect damage in a previous update. I often hit San nukes for over 1000 without MBing or using Futae. I've done over 3000 on a magic burst with futae. If I'm doing 3000 on a magic burst using 1.5x damage from futae, 6x would be extremely overkill (unless the casting time is prolonged). Although I can't say I'd mind an 18,000 damage nuke. Pretty expensive, too, but I'd use it if it just changed Futae to 100% instead of +50%.

[Darwena]

I want evrything wish12oz so the game will be freakin amazing and we will be happy and the all the nation in the world will be happy too.

Just in case, just to give you some Ex-pla-na-tion, the OP asked for relistic stuff WE want to have... Didn't reed the OP asking what Mr I feel like God behind a PC want to be happy...

So, if some PPL want to throw some Shuriken, Could they, please, ask for it in a post that what the purpose of... Just silly are the suposed "elitish" player that impose "THEYRE" way of view of the game and everything else for them is $h!T...

Neway... You will write another stuff how wrong am I and how godly you are and bla bla bla... Oh nice! Family Guys on TV... Cya!

[Kensagaku]

Fortunately, NIN can nuke extremely well and hold tank without ever engaging the mob. This is especially true in Abyssea. SE recently changed ninjutsu skill level to affect damage in a previous update. I often hit San nukes for over 1000 without MBing or using Futae. I've done over 3000 on a magic burst with futae. If I'm doing 3000 on a magic burst using 1.5x damage from futae, 6x would be extremely overkill (unless the casting time is prolonged). Although I can't say I'd mind an 18,000 damage nuke. Pretty expensive, too, but I'd use it if it just changed Futae to 100% instead of +50%.

o.o Nice. My Ninjutsu set's a bit weak atm, so I barely break 500s with San ninjutsu, maybe 800ish with an MB, which was why I proposed it. I honestly don't see many NIN use their nukes to any real effect, so I thought of it as evening out the balance a bit without removing the emphasis from their normal role.

[wish12oz]

I want evrything wish12oz so the game will be freakin amazing and we will be happy and the all the nation in the world will be happy too.

Just in case, just to give you some Ex-pla-na-tion, the OP asked for relistic stuff WE want to have... Didn't reed the OP asking what Mr I feel like God behind a PC want to be happy...

So, if some PPL want to throw some Shuriken, Could they, please, ask for it in a post that what the purpose of... Just silly are the suposed "elitish" player that impose "THEYRE" way of view of the game and everything else for them is $h!T...

Neway... You will write another stuff how wrong am I and how godly you are and bla bla bla... Oh nice! Family Guys on TV... Cya!

I would respond to you directly, but with your lack of ability to use the English language, I have a hard time understanding what you're saying. Sorry~

But this sort of stuff is pretty typical right? You said my name, I think you're trying to insult me, you can't communicate your ideas effectively, you don't know how to spell, you don't know the difference between your and you're, and you just give the impression of not knowing a thing about how the game works. If SE listened to people like you, I would quit. But my main idea here is that this is a direct form of communication with the people who make the game, and if I didn't tell them these ideas were dumb and speak for my side of the argument, I would be partly to blame if any of these terrible things got implemented.

All I have to say is, where are all of you people with relevant information in the threads people ask questions in, if you're so amazing and I'm garbage? Why am I the one answering questions like 'how do haste and DW affect weapon delay' and not you? Maybe you should follow your own advise, and go be productive instead of constantly trying to bash my ideas for how the job should work, I mean, based on every thread in this sub forum I'm the one with knowledge on the job, not you.

[Bulrogg]

If SE listened to people like you, I would quit.

May I use that as my signature? <.<

I still like the Perfect Parry JA idea. As well I am looking forward in hopes for an update to Throwing/Shurikens whether it leads to Throwing WS or not. I am still also for the idea of an ability that allows an actual clone to fight along side you. Something like this that I found in another thread.

Ninja: Striking Shadow Image - For the duration, as long as the Ninja has at least 1 Utsusemi shadow image active, a "pet" ninja clone will join them in battle. If Mijin Gakure is used while this is active, each shadow will add to the damage. (only one pet ninja clone will ever be present despite having multiple shadows active, however, it will continue to exist as long as any shadows are up, mimicking every move the Ninja makes, with lower power)

I agree 3/5 Timer might be frowned up; maybe a 5 active / 15 recast instead.

Still on the fence about JA Fade. Although I think it would be nice to see some sort of a boost to magic evasion.

I did like a few suggestions from Karbuncle's post.

Truthfully, I prefer Abilities that Think outside the box!

I am still hoping that SE will make an update to Utsusemi for when NINJA is main job the spell will work like it use to in regards its ability to block -aga's per shadow.

I'm not sure I agree with removing Yonin/Innin position proc; I'm curious of what SE intended with the position requirement to begin with. I would however like to see them on a Timer similar to Hasso/Seigan or LightArts/DarkArts; or make the effect of each un-dispelable(sp?)

[wish12oz]

May I use that as my signature? <.<

Go for it.

And I don't really know what SE was thinking with yonin/innin either, no good ninja who would actually benefit from innin is able to actually use it. The position requirement just makes it completely useless, which is exactly what ninja does not need more of; useless JAs that do nothing so SE can think "Ninja is ok now, we just updated it."

[Darwena]

I would respond to you directly, but with your lack of ability to use the English language, I have a hard time understanding what you're saying. Sorry~

But this sort of stuff is pretty typical right? You said my name, I think you're trying to insult me, you can't communicate your ideas effectively, you don't know how to spell, you don't know the difference between your and you're, and you just give the impression of not knowing a thing about how the game works. If SE listened to people like you, I would quit. But my main idea here is that this is a direct form of communication with the people who make the game, and if I didn't tell them these ideas were dumb and speak for my side of the argument, I would be partly to blame if any of these terrible things got implemented.

All I have to say is, where are all of you people with relevant information in the threads people ask questions in, if you're so amazing and I'm garbage? Why am I the one answering questions like 'how do haste and DW affect weapon delay' and not you? Maybe you should follow your own advise, and go be productive instead of constantly trying to bash my ideas for how the job should work, I mean, based on every thread in this sub forum I'm the one with knowledge on the job, not you.

I prefer going productive on job, or with my friend when I'm playing Hockey and such, Otherwise, when I'm playing video game, I still prefer being lazy, having fun and such. And sorry about my bad english, not my 1st langage, but at least I'm trying to comunicate in that second langage and make the best I can to write for it...

Neway I didnt want to bash you, or insult you... but just let you know that are ppl who "play" FFXI for the fun and such... not just elitish ppl who make mathematical and focus on all the tech about a "game". and again, Sorry about my Baaaaad english.

[Shadobi]

Shurikenjutsu Expertise

JOB TRAIT
Description: Grants 5 Dexterity 5 Agility on attributes and Critical hit damage on stackable shuriken equipped. Occasionally allows ranged attacks without consuming shurikens.
(Job Trait is only active on stackable shurikens equipped.)
Shuriken Juju Shuriken Manji Shuriken Fuma Shuriken Koga Shuriken


JOB ABILITY
SANGE (Revamped)
~Imbue stackable shurikens with elemental ninjutsu or foe-enfeebling ninjutsu tool.
~occasionally throws multiple shurikens at once.
Recast Time: 3:00
Duration: 1:00 (Ninja star Icon will show with element)

[wish12oz]

I prefer going productive on job, or with my friend when I'm playing Hockey and such, Otherwise, when I'm playing video game, I still prefer being lazy, having fun and such. And sorry about my bad english, not my 1st langage, but at least I'm trying to comunicate in that second langage and make the best I can to write for it...

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