Realistic Job adjustments wants!

[Gakaroth]

P.S. II ~ Gakaroth is a conformer

A conformer...

No, I'm just comfortable playing the job as it is at the moment, and if you ask any, ANY, of my friends, they'll tell you that every update we've got a new spell I've been pissed off it hasn't been the one spell we've lacked since lv45~ Jubaku: Ni.

Just because I haven't posted any origional ideas does not make me a conformist, infact, the only thing I've pointed out in this forum is that AF3+2 shoes give a 5th shaddow from Utsu: ni (I realise I miss-read what the user posted, but I'm dyslexic so sue me... and the icon shows '4+' on it at the moment, for those who weren't ninja before yonin/innin and shaddow count was added to the icons)

I've been sitting back and reading the suggestions slowly contemplating how they would be implimented in the game, and debating improvments and the likes, and also been trying to think of my own. I've been NIN for 3 years now, spent 6 months after level sync came out getting it from 50-75 before taking a break from XI for the birth of my son for 6 months.

I've still to come up with any concepts but am enjoying reading the forum, and fail to see why I was singled out and picked on here. Can you please explain this?

[Shadobi]

The Smoke Bomb (スモークボム, Sumōku Bomu) is a recurring, single-use item in the Final Fantasy (6,7) series usually used to escape from battles. Its what I meant on the first page not as blind tool like in Final Fantasy X... and so on -.-..

[Mojo]

I think there actually have been upgrades to the Stealth ability, although I can't be 100% certain. I find it difficult to sound aggro some mobs sometimes on ninja, have to get very close.

[Fetus]

It's been said a hundred times so far, but I'll say it again: NIN doesn't need A+ skills, throwing WS or certain :Ni or :San-level ninjutsu. Stop asking for it. Going on 9 pages of this crap. Tactical Evade or whatever will also never happen. Keep dreaming.

[Shoko]

It's been said a hundred times so far, but I'll say it again: NIN doesn't need A+ skills, throwing WS or certain :Ni or :San-level ninjutsu. Stop asking for it. Going on 9 pages of this crap. Tactical Evade or whatever will also never happen. Keep dreaming.

Actually it's more feasible than you think to add Ni and San levels of enfeebling ninjutsu. The argument would have been invalid if this was 2004 before merit additions, but now RDM (for example) have T2 Slow and Para, and Sabo JA and tons of Magic Acc and MND/INT potency gear.

I agree that the other stuff is more over the top however. Either way, I'ma post a new topic soon on relative and simple fixes to NIN that might make it a better job overall.

[Fetus]

Actually it's more feasible than you think to add Ni and San levels of enfeebling ninjutsu. The argument would have been invalid if this was 2004 before merit additions, but now RDM (for example) have T2 Slow and Para, and Sabo JA and tons of Magic Acc and MND/INT potency gear.

I agree that the other stuff is more over the top however. Either way, I'ma post a new topic soon on relative and simple fixes to NIN that might make it a better job overall.

Maybe I should clarify:

I'm saying that :San level enfeebling ninjutsu is highly unlikely considering that NIN lacks a complete line of even :Ni level ninjutsu. The extremely popular consensus has been that players would like to have Jubaku: Ni and Dokumori: Ni. If anyone wanted proof, just read any FFXI ninja-related forum on the internet. The comment was more directed to the unlikelihood of accessing Tier 4 elemental ninjutsu. Unless they were level 99 merits. Even then, no fking thanks. Give us some good merits for once, instead, please. Also, I think you meant valid.

@Bulrogg - Explain to me how A+ skills, :Ni and :San everything, sooper dooper Throwing WS and whatever other outlandish stuff you can unfortunately find in this thread are needed or necessary. Then I'll stop "belittling".

[Orenwald]

Yes, NIN doesn't need any of that junk... but throwing WS's would be fun, and not really game-breaky at all

[Mizzou]

Apparently someone forgot the name of this...
Thread: Realistic Job adjustments wants!

"wants".

[Fetus]

Apparently someone forgot the name of this...
Thread: Realistic Job adjustments wants!

"wants".

Apparently some people forgot the modifying word [SIZE="7"]realistic[/SIZE].

[Mizzou]

I thought about stating that, but then I realized, let him do it for me. Thank you, there are many realistic 'wants'. Look at previous FF games and compare to what people are saying. And in case you forgot, SE only knows what's going to happen in the future. So to say that none of these are going to be in it? Leave. The only comment that resonates unrealistic is yours. I do understand your optimism and enthusiasm is handicapped by negativity. Perhaps because these are not your wants and you prefer something else or nothing at all. This is not the thread for you. However, this is a thread for people say how they would like to see the job evolved even more. Why is that so hard to comprehend? (that was rhetorical) Have fun with it or leave. Don't be the buzz kill.