Realistic Job adjustments wants!

[Panthera]

I'll jump on the Jubaku: Ni and Utsusemi: San Bandwagon.

[Superchicken]

don't think you will ever see Utsu San as with nin af3 boots you get 5 and 4 shadows

I think paralyze NI will come in next merits.

I also thought ninja should get some kind of sleep spell or something like hide that thf has. I mean ninjas are suppose to be sneaky and able to vanish or go undetected so gives a vanish ability

throwing WS's is a must if you ask me

what i'm really looking forward to is the statement SE made about increasing the skill up rate of parry and guard. 285 parry skill and playing ninja all day long and seeing maybe a 1 lvl skill up per day is depressing

[Fetus]

I'll jump on the Jubaku: Ni ... Bandwagon.

Right. Because something people have wanted for years is suddenly bandwagon. Or it's just getting more attention because SE gave us an official place to make ourselves heard.

[Gakaroth]

I would love to see a 5 Shadow count on the icon. ^^

AF3+2 shoes give the extra shaddow, making it not dissimilar to Utsu San, turns ichi into 4 shaddows, ni into 5

[Fetus]

AF3+2 shoes give the extra shaddow, making it not dissimilar to Utsu San, turns ichi into 4 shaddows, ni into 5

That's not what he's talking about.

[Vrbas]

A+ Katana skill <Yes Please>

[NightBear]

Lets be reallistic about all this JA's and stuff I read so far. NIN only needs 1 thing, Ni version of the Ichi spells we got after 75, nothing more. If you cannot perfor the job well as is, if you have a hard time keeping hate, keeping shadows up,getting hit, then that means this is not the job for you. It makes me sad/angry that back in 2007-eary 2010 you could count the amount of NIN players on any event around: Merit groups, Dynamis , Sky , Sea, Limbus, etc. Why? beocuse NIN was a complex job to play back them before Abyssea came out, In order to keep hate of 2handers you had to be good at keeping hate with your tools, WS sets, and JA's, chosing the right sub job for the right situation. If you think you need 10 clones to attack a mob.. go play Naruto games, If you think you need more evasion after you get hit.. go level THF and get an evasion set, If you think you need a throwing WS.. go level RNG. While the need of Ni spells for Yurin,Miwagari,Yubaki,Myoshin is needed badly ( becouse by the time you enfeeble an enely already lost 40% of its HP) San spells are versions are not. If you can't land your Ni spells as is then something is wrong with you ninjutsu gear set. If you need warp as a tool..then having 10 Conquest point warp scrolls,Warp sticks,Warp items from events,Teleporting rings, and your 2hr should just disapear no? . Yes I sound full of anger but if you jumped from the SAM bandwagon to NIN becouse its easy on abyssea and still want all this "Reallistic JA's" get real play the job right.

P.S. Yes I was a NIN since 2007 and always played NIN when it was needed. Some mobs are better off to be left alone for your fellow PLD's.

Edit: Katana skill A+? We are the only job with 4 A skills, and able to weild a GK too, Torque,AF3, Merits should be enough katana skill to be Q.Qing about not having A+

[Superchicken]

If you think you need a throwing WS.. go level RNG.

What's RNG have to do with a throwing WS. last time i checked RNG didn't have a throwing WS but guess what they have archery and marksmanship AND weaponskills for axe, dagger, etc. So what's wrong with having a couple throwing WS's for a ninja? No one said they had to be super duper powered up WS's but since alot of ninjas carry boomerangs, chakrams, because of the stat bonus some provide and heaven forbid may need to range attack something to pull it, or to make use of some of the nice dmg a nice shuriken has. If you really think about, whats the use of having throwing skill if theres no WS to go with it. Oh i know cause that throw you use to pull a mob to camp needs to hit right? Oh and theres Sange or w/e its called that you can merit on ninja, cause with the availability of the highest dmg shuriken sange is so sought after by nins right? With no throwing weaponskill theres really no reason have skill associated with throwing. The only real things throwing skill would even matter would be throwing winds at sky gods, but who does sky anymore and at lvl 90 who even cares about throwing the wind at it, or throwing the ash at Ixion cause i think it has to hit to claim him but not sure and if doesn't have to hit proves my point even more or the actually usefulness of even having throwing skill in the game if theres no weaponskills to go with it. And even throwing at sky gods or Ixion who uses a nin to do it anyway, most would use a RNG to unlimited shot the throw and sharpshot for increased racc

[Fetus]

5 A- skills, NightBear. Katana, Throwing, Parrying, Evasion and Ninjutsu. More than any other job. So if everyone would stop crying about not having A+ Katana skill, that'd be great.... it's not even worth whining about. Ninja doesn't need Utsusemi: San by any stretch of the imagination. Ninja also doesn't need to be tainted by Naruto anymore, so if you could cut it out with that crap, awesome. It's like 2/3 of you aren't even thinking about what you type before you type it.

[Bulrogg]

I totally forgot Naruto was in the game.
I guess he trained Kagetora (S) and Hundredfaced Hapool Ja. Because that's (Naruto) totally where we all got the idea of having shadow clones from Utsusemi and not those two NPC mobs.
Nor was it the three year old post from POL regarding 'New Mercenary Ranks and Assault Missions'.

.....proceed with extreme caution. We have received reports indicating that these ninjas wield mysterious and deadly forms of ninjutsu.

I think allowing the PC's to use some form of this ninjutsu might have some nice role to play in game. Imagine if you could pop out your shadows as clones through a JA and then when they are killed or released you gain all of the Enimity/TP/HP that they had prior to the point of release. (Now yeah, I did kinda take that from Naruto where he learnt how to power level train himself) tainted love, oh oh oh oh....