Quote Originally Posted by Arciel View Post
Odin's Protocrystal wasn't shattered because someone summoned the Dark Rider. It was shattered because the beastmen captured Emeline and brought her to Bearclaw Pinnacle to sing the entire Lay of the Immortals.

When the goddess split the the mother crystal to save promathia and everyone else, the celestial avatars fell asleep. the goddess knew that celestial avatars would reject the world of vana’diel and should they ever wake, she knew there be big trouble. So she picked a select chosen few and merged them with the celestial avatars to dampen their wrath with those people’s love of vana’diel.

It was also carby’s plan to nurture that love of vanadiel by having summoners show the avatars around the world of vana’diel so they wouldn’t have an urge to destroy it when they work up. As the avatars dream, they see what the summoner sees as they use their power.

what the beastmen dragged emeline to in bearclaw pinnacle was crystalized emptiness. When she sung the song of the gods, she awoke promathia within the emptiness and it shattered. Thanks to the zilart promathias body was already set to go.

However, Odin is not like the other sleeping gods as he rules the underworld or something to that extent and can already manifest and act independently in Vana'diel. That is why he's able to do the whole Dark Rider thing and fight Alexander in Ragnarok. That is also how he could grant Raogrimm powers to become the Shadow Lord

Similarly, Alexander is entirely different from the avatars from the 6 protocrystals and should not be grouped together.

Terrestrial avatars do not have crystals or protocrystals.
A protocrystal is a door to the realm of the celestial avatars and only exists as they sleep. When the celestial avatars wake up, their protocrystal’s will shatter. The realm of the terrestrial avatars is vana’diel and awake or sleeping they are in their realm so no protocrystal is required.

The missing piece of the puzzle is why is odin and alexander awake. It is a story square enix has yet to tell. Also we don’t know what alexander looks like yet either. The empires, old and new, keep building him a vessel to possess. Is alex outside the realm of vana’diel because odin won’t let him in? or contained in the artifact in whitegate cause of him, we don’t know.

If he is outside then the discussion wanders into wotg confusion with the 2 odins talk.

Phoenix as as avatar is a possibility, but will require some clever writing to tie in with the existing state of the story with regards to her. The same really goes for any avatar.
since caith sith and atomos are a new line of avatars I wouln’t mind them adding the final boss in wotg missions as a siren avatar. Come on look at her shes scream im an avatar.
They will give us bahamut just you wait. Were level 119 now and as a god he’s level 75. The only thing holding him back is square having to recreate him so his model works in game.