Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
It's called a lot of death for Phoenix.
There is no proof in the current storyline to support that. It is only theory based on the Phoenix Blade gaining power from lost life. Gaining power does not automatically mean restoration of life. Also Phoenix decided not to return to the mothercrystal to be reborn, so we have no idea what would happen if she did.

Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
That and I'm not sure if she can be unbound from Sel'theus without harming him. It's one thing to unbind her from an unliving object and another to do with a living person.
We have no idea how Phoenix joined herself to Sel'theus. There is no point in the story that says Phoenix is bound to Sel'theus. We just assume that because they are combined and as with other storylines, not all fusions are permanent. Square-Enix has lots of room to work in a Phoenix storyline. They haven't painted themselves in a corner as you're making it out to be where it's impossible from a lore perspective. All of this is player speculation, not story related fact.

Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
If we did get bahamut I still think it would be a begrudged pact. I mean come on he might be starting to be impressed with the five races but do you really think he won't try another time to kill you all plan again instead of going ok let's work together through a pact. He isn't very trusting and I wouldn't be either if some eternal boy couldn't hold up his end of a pact what is to say someone of the five races will?
If Bahamut was completely untrusting of humanity in the way you are saying, he would have continued to destroy humanity to save Vana'diel, not stop after Phoenix countered against him on the Airship and certainly wouldn't have stopped after fighting him in the Quest, Storms of Fate. Which is the last story related Bahamut fight. After you beat Bahamut he says the following:

Quote Originally Posted by Bahamut
You have delayed mankind's extinction yet again... An age is a mere flicker to a wyrm. However, enough flickers united form a star. Children of Vana'diel. Unite and form a future in which mankind can survive.
Then Bahamut gives you his whisper which is a fragment of his power just like all the other avatars, only difference is you can't choose to apply that power to Summoning magic. I don't think it would be a begrudged pact, because someone who completely distrusts your motivations and capabilities wouldn't attempt to motive you, give you a portion of his power and stop trying to destroy the world which he could have easily done.