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    Maybe not endgame, but Carbuncle is supposed to be a low level, versatile avatar with decent healing/support/damage/magic abilities. It's an all around decent and versatile avatar that's free and cheap. Just think of it as a Fast Blade or a T1 nuke(pre patch) nobody used them at high levels but they were pretty good at low levels. Carbuncle was intended to be a versatile avatar for young summoners who haven't unlocked the others yet. Most PUPs dont use Harlequinn frame at high levels yet it's still versatile as a starting/low level Automaton.
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    Being able to erase up to 5-6 debuffs at once, Curaga III or add a 10% Defense Boost / 4% MDT that lasts 6:20 is already good enough for me. Carbuncle is weaker than the other avatars but by no means worthless in our arsenal.

    I'm fine with getting RR, a Light based Sleep/TP reduces BP and an AoE potentially stronger than Thunderspark but as I thought, Cait Sith seems a bit unfinished at the moment, will she ever got an Avatar's Favor aura? Considering most of our useful Blood Pacts have come past the lvl 75 cap (Tidal Roar, Diamond Storm, Earthen Armor, Inferno Howl, Fleet Wind, Night Terror...) I keep hope that she can get 1 or 2 situationally useful BPs later like a strong Piercing or a curing BP. Something that gives Defense Down, Critical hit rate/damage or Regain would be great of course but it's unlikely to me. Divine Favor is also missing, if I recall, it doesn't just removes negative status effects but also gives Alacrity and Manifestation effects in the "Distorter of Time" BC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papesse View Post
    Being able to erase up to 5-6 debuffs at once, Curaga III or add a 10% Defense Boost / 4% MDT that lasts 6:20 is already good enough for me. Carbuncle is weaker than the other avatars but by no means worthless in our arsenal.

    I'm fine with getting RR, a Light based Sleep/TP reduces BP and an AoE potentially stronger than Thunderspark but as I thought, Cait Sith seems a bit unfinished at the moment, will she ever got an Avatar's Favor aura? Considering most of our useful Blood Pacts have come past the lvl 75 cap (Tidal Roar, Diamond Storm, Earthen Armor, Inferno Howl, Fleet Wind, Night Terror...) I keep hope that she can get 1 or 2 situationally useful BPs later like a strong Piercing or a curing BP. Something that gives Defense Down, Critical hit rate/damage or Regain would be great of course but it's unlikely to me. Divine Favor is also missing, if I recall, it doesn't just removes negative status effects but also gives Alacrity and Manifestation effects in the "Distorter of Time" BC.
    Healing Ruby II is weaker then curaga III. Shining Ruby def is nice, but MDT doesn't break cap so it's crap unless your DD aren't swapping into DT sets. You only need 21 MDT to cap, that's really easy to get.

    Avatar's Favor lowers avatar attack by 20% and MAB by 20. Get rid of that retarded penalty and then sure, I'd like an Avatar's Favor.
    I was shocked Celestial Avatars didn't get any new DD BPs from 75-99. All we have is nice support stuff, we don't need more support. We need more damage.

    Edit: oh and I forgot, unless you have carbuncle out by the time you actually summon then get into range and actually use soothing ruby you could have cast 2-3 Erases and so could the other healers in your PT. Since you're likely with a PLD and a WHM and probably something else that can erase and your only task is to make sure EA stays up so the PLD doesn't die, using that soothing ruby means you can't do your job for the next 38 seconds if EA goes down and needs to be reapplied.
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    Last edited by Genoxd; 03-08-2014 at 12:27 AM.

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    Atleast if they give her Divine Favor later down the line she'll have a good use I guess, but Scholars are sure gonna be pissed at summoners, she could also use a tier II regal scratch attack.
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    Or they could just make the avatar favor a native effect when you summon the avatar, instead of making a pet action with a useless penalty, also the favors should effect the avatar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    Or they could just make the avatar favor a native effect when you summon the avatar, instead of making a pet action with a useless penalty, also the favors should effect the avatar.

    I've been asking for this for years. Remove the penalty and the -perp bonus and just make it a bloody trait. Give the avatars the favors themselves so that they can have some increased uniqueness. If they don't do that, then they need to enhance the effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    Or they could just make the avatar favor a native effect when you summon the avatar, instead of making a pet action with a useless penalty, also the favors should effect the avatar.
    yeah I'd like to see the penalty removed. It's not like SMN is overpowered.
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    I don't want a replacement for Carbuncle I like all my avatars, I just want Cait Sith to be more useful than a raise spell.
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    Could a community rep clarify the "Reraise II" Blood Pact wording? "Grants you the effect of Raise II when you are KO'd." Does this mean that the "Reraise II" Blood Pact is self-target only, or will we be able to use it on party members as well? I'm hoping that we can target party members, and not just yourself. With all the available forms of RR out there, I don't think it would be game breaking to allow this to target your party members.
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    Last edited by Rakshaka; 03-09-2014 at 10:18 AM. Reason: Corrected "Raise" to "Reraise"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakshaka View Post
    Could a community rep clarify the "Raise II" Blood Pact wording? "Grants you the effect of Raise II when you are KO'd." Does this mean that the "Raise II" Blood Pact is self-target only, or will we be able to use it on party members as well? I'm hoping that we can target party members, and not just yourself. With all the available forms of RR out there, I don't think it would be game breaking to allow this to target your party members.
    You can't use the PB, If you're KO'd. It's intended use is for Party Members.
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