Rancor Collar

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Neck, 87, All jobs.
Acc+6, "Tonberry's Grudge."

Any thoughts or info?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

If it reduces grudge, I don't know. Just took one for 3767.

[Korpg]

Is it an ability, job trait, or what?

[Zyeriis]

Maybe it nullifies tonberry hate gain when killing them? Could also be tied to Blue Magic.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Haven't tested blu yet and I dont' rest my hate, so testing hate gain would be hard for me.

[Karbuncle]

Well, Could be a boost to Everyone's Grudge (BLU Spell) based on your tonberry Hate. Seems sorta-likely.

best bet, Use Grudge nakid on a lv0 mob outside starters, then equip neck and do it again, see if theres any difference.

If not, We'll have to start testing other venues.

[Runespider]

Maybe it nullifies tonberry hate gain when killing them?

this would be my bet, since they just changed the CFH system too.

[Vold]

Haven't tested blu yet and I dont' rest my hate, so testing hate gain would be hard for me.

You're in a better position than the rest of us. Go reset that hate. Sounds like you need to anyways.

[Eeek]

You're in a better position than the rest of us. Go reset that hate. Sounds like you need to anyways.

Resetting tonberry hate is no fun! I've never reset mine, and I kinda like the game of russian roulette that is fighting tonberries. Luckily, it's not been an issue while doing anything important, and I hope it never does become a problem.

If fact, I'm going to go out and kill 20ish tonberries first thing when i log on later!

[Khiinroye]

How would testing hate gain be hard, even without resetting hate? Go get hit by grudge, hp, go back, kill some tonberries (keep track of how many you kill) and then get hit by grudge again. Calculate the difference in damage per kill. I don't remember if it is affected by shell / mdt / mdb gear, so it'd be best to not use that.

Or, for less dying, have a pet get hit by grudge instead of you.