Trust, is extremely annoying

[Karah]

Reasonable complaint.

Unreasonable solution.

Feel free to think of a better solution, eliminating them from all Adoulin content is the only one I can think of.

[Bamph]

Feel free to think of a better solution, eliminating them from all Adoulin content is the only one I can think of.

Move all the people that don't want to use trust, or abby, or any "easy mode" to another server where everything like that is disabled, go back to the way dynamis used to be, take out the easy mode stuff, no events, because that's not really "leet" stuff, etc... Leave all the people who don't really care about other people using trust alone on their servers.

[Calatilla]

Feel free to think of a better solution, eliminating them from all Adoulin content is the only one I can think of.

Stopping people from using them in Adoulin zones won't make them team up though, SE will let trust be summoned while in a party at some point (at least they said they were looking into it) so people can have the best of both worlds I guess, but people who are anti-social will always be anti-social.

I agree that people who would rather fight 30 people for 15 mobs instead of teaming up for quicker kills is annoying, it's the only thing that annoys me about the way some people use trust but Adoulin isn't the only place RoE works and if someone wants to solo 20 mobs instead of teaming up for 5mins then that's their loss.

[Karah]

I agree that people who would rather fight 30 people for 15 mobs instead of teaming up for quicker kills is annoying, it's the only thing that annoys me about the way some people use trust but Adoulin isn't the only place RoE works and if someone wants to solo 20 mobs instead of teaming up for 5mins then that's their loss.

It's not just their loss though, it's aggravating to the OTHER people as well, it's simply just rude quite actually.

Move all the people that don't want to use trust, or abby, or any "easy mode" to another server where everything like that is disabled, go back to the way dynamis used to be, take out the easy mode stuff, no events, because that's not really "leet" stuff, etc... Leave all the people who don't really care about other people using trust alone on their servers.

I've asked about new/different servers forever now, never going to happen.

[Kote]

They helped speed up VWNM pops for magian trials, especially for shoggoth and for removing petrifacation. I havent tried it yet but is it even possible to skill up enhancing or healing magics on them? Kind of sucks though, you'll only get songs and whm buffs when engaged with an enemy. Or how the two (assumed) best blm in vanadel become completely useless in long/multi fights after running out of mp. Drawback: can't release them and re summon them when in combat. You can always re summon and Adv fellow though with a charged tactics pearl.

Otherwise I just see alot of people just standing around showing off their new showponies in obscure areas.

[Trumpy]

I agree with your using 3 npcs to kill 20 enemies where there are 200 other people thing (assuming they are willing to team up, not always the case)

Disagree with blanket statement of gimpness or bad playered-ness.

People bitched about not being able to get some stuff done without seeking or trying to form groups for hours. or not being able to log on for short times and achieve anything cause of lack of available or willing players. Trust is one of their solutions for this (they been mentioning adjustments to solo content for the last few months). The bad thing is the people unwilling to dismiss the trusts when there are others willing to help. Like many magian trials in the past when couple players dont want to team up for a nm trial but i team up with anyone willing to and we outclaim them and even offer an invite when we do and they refuse thats just fucking stupid!

For me if i am playing on my monster and there is say a limited time quest going for a mob in my area, i will sometimes go with my mule somewhere else and use trust to finish the goal for him instead of stopping what i am doin on my monster for 10 or so minutes to finish the goal together. I try to go to out of the norm places where there are tons of mobs available or no players tho cause i dislike competing for 3 mobs, as long as it isnt too ridiculous to get there.

[Calatilla]

Well the other people can just team up and kill everything can't they, and the solo person will be living off scraps. If they don't want to team up with you and your buddies then just go about your business regardless. Surely you can kill a few mobs faster than 1 person?

I don't quite get why you're placing this on Trust though, some people just refuse to team up, even before Trust NPC`s, hell I had to fight for claim on a trial NM, we were both on the same f'in path but they refused to team up.

[Karah]

It's solely the fault of trust that MORE players think they don't need to team up.

Certainly I can kill 5x faster than some gimp using trust, but you must not understand the pop mechanics if you don't understand why it's annoying.

While they sssssslllllllooooooowwwwwllllllyyyyyy kill one enemy it ruins the entire cycle waiting for the ones already dead to repop.

Being cost 5 seconds of downtime is enough to justify hatred toward these people. Time is money, and you're wasting it.

[Camiie]

Being cost 5 seconds of downtime is enough to justify hatred toward these people. Time is money, and you're wasting it.

Hon, if 5 seconds of downtime bothers you that much then you're playing the wrong damn game.

[Karah]

You really try too hard, and must be oblivious to hyperbole, but that happens with text.

I run past these idiots with trusts and go somewhere else, but everytime I see them, it's hard not to literally vomit.

Hon, if 5 seconds of downtime bothers you that much then you're playing the wrong damn game.

I'm ok with natural downtime, of course that's going to happen, but gimpcaused downtime is unacceptable.