Shocked at the player loss?

[Vivivivi]

Server population on Quetz up on average by roughly 44% on both NA and JP prime times, and right now during NA prime time, we have 1057, in weeks before this update, we were usually sitting at 400 at this time.

It will be interesting to see the numbers after FFXIV 2.1 is released, and again after the welcome back trial is over. Regardless, I played longer today than I have since August, and while it's definitely not the same FFXI, I very much welcome the faster pace.

[Ravenmore]

It depends on the jobs and if you are soloing. Party situations yes you can use the lower lvl pieces, but in solo you want as much Def and Vit etc. as you can stack. Speaking as Pup/whm & War/dnc longtime solo player, I will confirm that the Outrider pieces come out ontop for my War because of the high Vit+Chr making my CW3 give bigger cures, plus the pdt set bonus, plus the high Def. It is way better than the Karieyh+1 set I got for my War which only came out like 3 weeks ago -ish. If you are in a party with Whms such considerations don't matter to you. Similarly on Pup/whm my MP pool and refresh are important to me for kiting. So I upgrade for those things. But the new gear will be obsolete soon, was my point. More mp gear etc. which you wouldnt swap out anyway lol because you'd lose the extra mp etc.
Re; the reforged effort/reward relationship, yes it is totally out. I now got two sets of reforged I bought all 10 slots with eminence records. They are as you say very situational I agree on that.
My main point is that I used the same gear sets for years in the past, switching in some new gear here and there. So I had permanent sets that I liked using and got used to. Now whole entire sets are replaced on a monthly basis. And nobody is going to wear Manibozo, my mule has that set fulled lixered and its shit compared to the gear that came out immediately after it. Skirmish gear is still relevant but you will be tossing it also soon enough for sure.
Everyone wants new cool gear, and I'm glad SE are adding new stuff, my problem is the iLvl system and the frequency of scorched-earth updates.

And SE has stated that the game is going back to sidegrades look at the +1 reforge little more stats but not ground breaking for the effort that goes into it. If they wanted to continue with what they had been doing those sets would be the end all be all but they are not. I use just about the same sets for TP for solo on drg and blu as I do in party only change since this last update is I finally got a group to spam the legs skcnm and got reforge for my drg so I now have the wyvern HP with out giving up capped haste and only losing 2% DA. If the mob can't one shot you from full HP or yellow HP no reason to full time -pdt gear and with trust killing trash mobs is so much of a cake walk. Bayld gear again wasn't meant to last everyone knew this SE added it for those that couldn't get help for past content to gear up for delve and skirmish and was trash next to content that already existed that was easy to do and set up for.

[Vivivivi]

Its good to see you coming back and enjoying the game again, we need a lot more of that.

I had so much fun last week. I helped people with the new BCs, and while I wasn't particularly interested in upgrading my own AF, by virtue of this new reward system where all participants get 2 papers regardless of loot pool, I had enough to upgrade my PLD feet to level 109

Eminence is one of the greatest new additions to the game. You rack up points regardless of the content you participate in, and can expend them on a variety of useful items.

Also the initial objectives are great, I hope we see frequent updates to these. I found myself in a level sync party in Mamook... something I can't say I would have ever guessed I'd be doing, and having fun doing it lololol.

New teleport system makes spontaneously deciding to do random content a decision you don't have to think twice about. I'm sure making it somewhat time consuming to travel was intentional years and years ago to prevent area congestion, and place some restrictions on game progression, but with how many areas we have now and how much content there is to do, it removes a lot of the "chore" just to get to the content you want to participate in.

Great job dev team!

[sc4500]

Why constantly update old gear, that's being stuck in the past. I'm glad they added stronger gear than was strongest at lvl75 cap. It's silly to have lvl75 gear be the best in the game with a cap of 99 and a second "cap" at 119.

But the problem was that a lot of that old gear use to take years to get. What drove a lot people nuts , was first the 75 gear that took for ever to get became worthless when abby came out, but it was cool since it brought a lot of life back to the game and some that 75 gear was still good. Then after grinding abby gear and VW and NNI and Limbus. For a few years.

With one expansion adoulin made every single piece of old gear all,but worthless. So all that time became worthless. What a lot people would have like seen happen was, New seeker gears, and have the more harder old gear and old weapons at least be somewhat worth while still. With a update system for them old hard to get pieces close to equal the seekers gear.

Even now you can take a few months just to get some of that old gear and it worthless. While with seekers you can get elite gear. That destroys all that old gear and hard work in only a few hrs.

[Kimjongil]

I had so much fun last week. I helped people with the new BCs, and while I wasn't particularly interested in upgrading my own AF, by virtue of this new reward system where all participants get 2 papers regardless of loot pool, I had enough to upgrade my PLD feet to level 109

Eminence is one of the greatest new additions to the game. You rack up points regardless of the content you participate in, and can expend them on a variety of useful items.

Also the initial objectives are great, I hope we see frequent updates to these. I found myself in a level sync party in Mamook... something I can't say I would have ever guessed I'd be doing, and having fun doing it lololol.

New teleport system makes spontaneously deciding to do random content a decision you don't have to think twice about. I'm sure making it somewhat time consuming to travel was intentional years and years ago to prevent area congestion, and place some restrictions on game progression, but with how many areas we have now and how much content there is to do, it removes a lot of the "chore" just to get to the content you want to participate in.

Great job dev team!

Speak for yourself. The babies who complain adman hauberk should be more powerful than a 99 piece of gear was a joke.

I am glad se tossed most the old gear and the babies left. Rem is ok.

[Ravenmore]

But the problem was that a lot of that old gear use to take years to get. What drove a lot people nuts , was first the 75 gear that took for ever to get became worthless when abby came out, but it was cool since it brought a lot of life back to the game and some that 75 gear was still good. Then after grinding abby gear and VW and NNI and Limbus. For a few years.

With one expansion adoulin made every single piece of old gear all,but worthless. So all that time became worthless. What a lot people would have like seen happen was, New seeker gears, and have the more harder old gear and old weapons at least be somewhat worth while still. With a update system for them old hard to get pieces close to equal the seekers gear.

Even now you can take a few months just to get some of that old gear and it worthless. While with seekers you can get elite gear. That destroys all that old gear and hard work in only a few hrs.

People are working far harder now and since aby dropped for their gear instead of sitting in line for gear. The only thing that made the old gear hard to get was lock outs and 18+ people going after the same carrot. You can still be carried though content but fewer people are putting up and even mercing those people still put the effort in to farm gil. The people that really got mad over old gear and events falling out of favor were the ones in control over LSs since they no longer had the little authority they once did and the people that blindly followed and sucked up to them. Though it is nice you seem to think that is why people are leaving and not that it is a 10 year old game are bored of the world, the jobs the outdated everything. This is proven beyond a doubt when FF14 has how many people and most of those are ex 11 players form before aby and after, those that walked away before even hitting 75 cap back in the day to those that got sick of just grinding merit parties. !4 has just about the same reward systems of faster less grindy rewards yet people are flocking to it.



People really hate to admit that they are just tired of something that they once loved and find all kinds of excuses when in reality no matter what SE done the same people would have left anyway just over something else and SE knows this.

[Olor]

I love the last patch, it has made the game more fun but would like to see other gear get upgrade paths. Stuff like tocis harness etc looks really cool and it seems pretty wasteful that it is only really good for town gear now.

Or add vanity slots like EQ2 so that we can wear gear with good stats but choose what we look like. I really liked voidwatch though (ok so maybe I am weird) and I would love to see people doing it again.

If more voidwatch was added - say to adoulin areas - with upgrade items for older VW sets it would give people an incentive to do older battles and increase the supply of heavy metal (which might as well be called unobtainium at this point) so that people can finish their empyrean weapons.

[sc4500]

People are working far harder now and since aby dropped for their gear instead of sitting in line for gear. The only thing that made the old gear hard to get was lock outs and 18+ people going after the same carrot. You can still be carried though content but fewer people are putting up and even mercing those people still put the effort in to farm gil. The people that really got mad over old gear and events falling out of favor were the ones in control over LSs since they no longer had the little authority they once did and the people that blindly followed and sucked up to them. Though it is nice you seem to think that is why people are leaving and not that it is a 10 year old game are bored of the world, the jobs the outdated everything. This is proven beyond a doubt when FF14 has how many people and most of those are ex 11 players form before aby and after, those that walked away before even hitting 75 cap back in the day to those that got sick of just grinding merit parties. !4 has just about the same reward systems of faster less grindy rewards yet people are flocking to it.



People really hate to admit that they are just tired of something that they once loved and find all kinds of excuses when in reality no matter what SE done the same people would have left anyway just over something else and SE knows this.

You are true on most of your points. The only thing it was not just linkshell leaders that left. It had to do with the fact you work so hard for stuff and it becomes worthless so fast now. With out a system that could have been in place to improve the more harder gears you would earn. A lot people just did not want to work there butt off again once they seen seekers content early on. Only to down the road it worthless again with out a update system in place and to late i believe now. It just became time for people to move on to the other mmos or ffxiv.