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    Player Castanica's Avatar
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    Free to play plans?

    FFXI is old now and honestly the level and quality of the updates we get no longer mean it's worth the subscription fee, the game has also lost a lot of players.

    Does Square have any plans to let FFXI go free to play with a cash shop anytime soon?
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    If you think it's not worth anymore then you should cancel your subscription.
    Make many other people follow your lead and then, just then, SE maybe will think about moving FFXI into FTP.
    Until people continue to play regularly why should they bother?
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    In before someone starts mistakingly ranting about f2p meaning a game has failed.

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    Maybe if the game gets more new player friendly they could add a first 20-30 lvls with only the basic game free option. That would be a good business move. I know I am waaaay more apt to try a game out when I can give it a test run. But with as horribly unfriendly as this game is to new and returning players right now they need to just keep charging us as long as we will pay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elphy View Post
    Maybe if the game gets more new player friendly they could add a first 20-30 lvls with only the basic game free option. That would be a good business move. I know I am waaaay more apt to try a game out when I can give it a test run. But with as horribly unfriendly as this game is to new and returning players right now they need to just keep charging us as long as we will pay.
    14 Day Free Trial.

    Honestly the free trial is so limited that SE might as well make it not be time limited to be honest, you can't have any of the expansions, which means beating the Shadow Lord somehow at level 30 is the only real thing you can do, and only on a budget of 100k that you can't have gotten from other players or the Auction House.

    That said, if I had to give one suggestion to improving the current free trial system, it would be a method to trade a Linkshell to them one way. Easiest way to get free trial players hooked in my opinion.

    I highly doubt FFXI is going to a free-to-play/freemium model anytime soon, nor could I really even see having an item similar to EVE Online's PLEX (basically allowing players with lots of in-game resources to pay another player to cover their subscription costs, a variant of RMT). SE's stances on the economic impacts of possible changes and their current profits vs. the investment of a changeover just don't necessarily match up at this time with the idea.
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    Player Castanica's Avatar
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    I already have canceled my sub months ago as has everyone I knew, this is why I'm asking.

    FFXI is still a great game, it's just not worth the money they are asking anymore. With free to play the population will be boosted again and they can make money from optionals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castanica View Post
    FFXI is old now and honestly the level and quality of the updates we get no longer mean it's worth the subscription fee, the game has also lost a lot of players.
    Ehh... that was more true this time last year than today. Today we (finally) have a new expansion pack to look forward to. Even if the updates nowadays do feel underwhelming, there appears to be a light at the end of the tunnel.

    Also, the new update schedule might be contributing to the ennui; monthly updates can't be as big an exciting as the old quarterly updates were, since there are only so many man-hours in a month and generally don't have weeks to hype an upcoming release.

    Does Square have any plans to let FFXI go free to play with a cash shop anytime soon?
    FFXI is still profitable enough to pay for both itself and for fixing XIV. Don't expect them to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs any time soon.
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    Nothing in the above post is intended to disparage Square Enix or FINAL FANTASY XI, or to criticize Square Enix staff; such behavior would be a violation of the FINAL FANTASY XI User Agreement. Any such violations of the FINAL FANTASY XI User Agreement should be reported to Square Enix immediately, by using the "Report Post" icon in the bottom-left of forum posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castanica View Post
    I already have canceled my sub months ago as has everyone I knew, this is why I'm asking.

    FFXI is still a great game, it's just not worth the money they are asking anymore. With free to play the population will be boosted again and they can make money from optionals.
    $12:95 a month is not really alot. SE is not going ftp anytime soon and i dont see how ftp in FFXI would work. i dont wanna be playing for a stack a meat for $1 in AH. or any others gear etc o.o.

    some games it work well because it was build for that but just changing it on the fly would mess up lot of things because iam sure 90% of the gear/weapons/events gonna have to keep spamming real money and not gils anymore and it gonna be more then the $12 we paying every month or just be gimp as hell with the free gear.
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    Last edited by nyheen; 01-23-2013 at 08:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economizer View Post
    14 Day Free Trial.

    Honestly the free trial is so limited that SE might as well make it not be time limited to be honest, you can't have any of the expansions, which means beating the Shadow Lord somehow at level 30 is the only real thing you can do, and only on a budget of 100k that you can't have gotten from other players or the Auction House.

    That said, if I had to give one suggestion to improving the current free trial system, it would be a method to trade a Linkshell to them one way. Easiest way to get free trial players hooked in my opinion.
    This I could go for. The more opportunity for linkshells to sink their claws into free trial players and coax them into something more, the better.

    Beyond that, I'm not sure S-E is doing enough to publicize the program, even among existing players. Hardly anybody seems to know what that green-and-yellow icon means.

    Hell, the lack of linkshells for them means there's hardly anybody around to explain the overly complicated process of becoming a paying player to them to begin with...

    Would the anti-RMT measures still be broken if free trial players are able to trade everything but gil?

    EDIT: ZOMG, players on an unlimited free trial, with the AH/Bazaar restrictions, would be the perfect pool of players to supply the guild salesrooms with non-restocked items! Now there's a mechanic that's been dead and abandoned since forever...
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    Last edited by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo; 01-23-2013 at 08:57 PM.
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    While I have no problem with a freemium based access for new players. You know stuff like basic areas only, access to the first 6 jobs, lvl 30 cap, and possibly a few trade-able items (like a linkshell, honestly this is a must).

    I hope that FFXI never goes FTP with a cash shop. Not because I see it as a fail of a game but because I can't stand that sort of business model and avoid the majority of games that use it. And the ones I do play, I play for a month at most before I decide its not worth it.

    One of the things that keep me coming back to FFXI (even after vowing not to many times now lol) is that I don't feel like I'm far behind those with RL money to burn and that I have just as much of a chance to earn what other players have, if I put the time and effort in. Of course a few exceptions to this like the tidal talisman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyheen View Post
    $12:95 a month is not really alot. SE is not going ftp anytime soon and i dont see how ftp in FFXI would work. i dont wanna be playing for a stack a meat for $1 in AH. or any others gear etc o.o.

    some games it work well because it was build for that but just changing it on the fly would mess up lot of things because iam sure 90% of the gear/weapons/events gonna have to keep spamming real money and not gils anymore and it gonna be more then the $12 we paying every month or just be gimp as hell with the free gear.
    Well, if you want more gear/weapons/events, it should only be fair you pay more, right?

    Truth of the matter is I stopped caring about having the best gear a long time ago because I knew if I obsessed to much over having the best gear, I would likely turn to RMT. I think everyone would. Everyone else obsessed about gear. But many did not turn to RMT and played the honest way. And still others did turn to RMT to improve at least a few times. I know how tempting it can be to turn to RMT.

    So, F2P wouldn't change THAT much. People will always buy game cash. You can't stop that. They want to win and will do what they feel necessary to do it. And no, they won't get caught till it's too late. I mean, look at what Lance Armstrong did to a different game? And he fooled everyone for years.
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