The Next Login Campaign

[Anjou]

Wait what, did SE suddenly remove Abyssea from the game? They can upgrade their AF3 just fine... all they have to do is the content that it was designed under. I actually initially thought this campaign was a bad idea because it removes content from the game for people. People love skipping things like Abyssea but its actual content the game offers. The 2000 category is terrible, yes. Idk who would waste their points on that when you can easily obtain it. SE has always done silly design choices like that, look at past mog bonanza item spots etc. I'm just saying it would be more constructive to list what you'd like to see instead of constant whining, as if that doesn't happen enough already on these forums. I'd personally like to see more vanity items, people only got one chance at the moogle costumes. Vanity items should be more of a focus, not allowing people to skip old content imo.

Ok then I'll go into a full detailed post about what I'd -like- to see, but oh wait, they aren't going to consider them, because I don't live in Japan and they can't easily read what I post.

10 points:

- Cavorting Worm
- Little Lugworm
- Athena Orb
- Glinting Shield
- Golden Seed Pouch
- Chestnut Tree Sap
- Monarch Beetle Saliva
- Seasoning Stone
- Fossilized Bone
- Fossilized Fang
- Beastmen's Seal
- Kindred's Seal
- Kindred's Crest
- High Kindred's Crest
- Sacred Kindred's Crest
- Levigated Rock
- Training Manual
- Copse Candy
- Prize Powder


(Because 300 points for a single use costume item is ridiculous, plus hardly anyone does Meebles so might as well add the powder in so people can be all boxy. Also I think that the value of the seals at this point is meaningless, because obtaining them is so simple that people can manipulate that system... The current system having 1 Sacred Kindred Crest at 100 points, I can buy 3 Beastman Seal for 30 points total, and convert that into an SKC. So I can either waste 100 points per SKC, or spend 30 on 1 Beastman Seal, wait for the December 10th update, and swap 400 seals for SKC's. Is this starting to make sense?)

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30 points:

- Seasoning Stone
- Fossilized Bone
- Fossilized Fang

100 points:

- Trainee Axe
- Trainee Burin
- Trainee Gloves
- Trainee Hammer
- Trainee Knife
- Trainee Scissors
- Trainee Sword
- Trainee's Needle
- Trainee's Spectacles
- Mog Bonanza Kupon DS (Dynamis San d'Oria Relic armor.)
- Mog Bonanza Kupon DB (Dynamis Bastok Relic armor.)
- Mog Bonanza Kupon DW (Dynamis Windurst Relic Armor.)

(Admit it, the quests are so simple to do at our average level of strength and with a whole community to provide information, there is 0 challenge to obtaining these. It'd be nice for rookies to have a head start in crafting anyways instead of them being subjected to seeing crafters who tell them they spent like 70k guild points for their crafting gear.)

300 points:

- Mog Bonanza Kupon AW (Ark Weapon, save menu space and just use this.)
- Mog Bonanza Kupon O
- Mog Bonanza Kupon S1 (For +1 items)


(These should be added because it'd save them space to allow for more items to be added.)

500 points:

- Rounsy Wand
- Kingdom Stables Collar
- Federation Stables Scarf
- Republic Stables Medal

(Reasonable as these are just for travel purposes and only good for saving time or recharging if you used up your charges from Halloween's event.)

1000 points:

- Beastly Shank
- Blue Pondweed
- Honey Wine
- Monkey Wine
- Singed Buffalo
- Roast Buffalo (I believe this is the item.)
- Genbu's Kabuto
- Suzaku's Sun-Ate
- Kirin's Osode
- Byakko's Haidate
- Seiryu's Kote
(Because if the HNM's get pops, should allow people to spawn the beasties in ZNM's as well.)

2,000 points:

(I can't think of anything to add here)

NEW CATEGORY:

4000 points:

- Ridil
- Hauteclaire
- Hofud
- Algol
- Seveneyes
- Valkyrie's Fork
- Byakko's Axe
- Seiryu's Sword
- Suzaku's Scythe


(Yeah you get a good item, but at the cost of all -or a vast majority- of your points.)

[dasva]

None of those 4k items are actually good anymore just vanity items. Plus given that sky god pops are so common now they sell for like 5k each the worst drop from those mobs being 4k points seems a tad crazy.

[Nakts]

The 2k points bracket is genuinely bizarre. I've been NPCing my phoenix feathers for 1200 gil, the ones that drop in ODS like confetti at weddings. I've been NPCing my marlboro fibers and BB blood from there too for years, until SE made an update where it was possible to gouge unsuspecting people with those drops that are easy to get with 30 kindreds seals, in two minutes.

2k points could have been REM chapters, or ra-ex furnishings, new Orchestrion Parts, new 11th festival event clothes, etc. Anything except phoenix feathers lol.

Yeah, I've been confused ever since I saw the list. 2k for npc garbage?

[Camiie]

Yeah, I've been confused ever since I saw the list. 2k for npc garbage?

Unless they plan to make those items useful with the update.

[Dragoy]

Yeah, I've been confused ever since I saw the list. 2k for npc garbage?

Well... in case you missed the fact, they're being used for the level 99, or 109 rather, artifact armour restoration.

Why they're so high up in cost I know not...

[FaeQueenCory]

Well... in case you missed the fact, they're being used for the level 99, or 109 rather, artifact armour restoration.

Why they're so high up in cost I know not...

It's cause everyone just NPC'd them for so long cause they used to be NPC garbage....
I don't really know why some are now millions of gil... (on Odin) but... I can only guess that it's because the supply is extremely low and demand is high due to the 109 AF1.
Which will probably only get so much worse due to the 119 happening tomorrow... >_>
I don't think 2k points is gonna affect prices though....

And for the last Login Campaign... I'd have rather seen Arise and Meteor at a 2-4k point tag.

[detlef]

I thought about the login rewards, and some of it makes sense and some of it doesn't. I like things like Beastly Shanks because even if you have the pop item, you still have to go out and kill Behemoth (please make multiple ??? SE). Likewise, Sacred Kindred's Crests makes sense because it allows you do the SKC battlefields. You still have to do the work. Even thing like Yggzi beads makes sense because you still have to kill Delve mega bosses.

What doesn't make sense to me is just giving us items. I'll gladly take Empyrean seals and +2 items but I don't think it's good for the game. It's just obsoleting Abyssea. It's bad enough that Empyrean weapons are almost always the worst of the 3 RME (and their WS are no longer exclusive). Why kill seal/+2 farming too? I like the idea of ZNM triggers, but I think T4 pops is too generous. Something along the lines of T3 trophies is probably more reasonable.

I know people are rightfully bagging on the 2k items this time around, but it might be worthwhile for Beetle Blood. My understanding is that the rest of the upgrade items have a 100% drop source somewhere in the game (KS30 for Malboro Fiber, for example) or are common enough that prices aren't crazy. A lot of 109 armor is going to be upgraded to 119 in the coming months, and there will have to be an influx in upgrade items from somewhere.