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    Player Kavik's Avatar
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    PLD Lv 99

    BRD - the most purposefully gimped job in the game.

    OK, my brd is 80 so some may think that I have no business complaining about this, but as an avid brd for several years before the cap increase I see these issues all the time espescially with the new yellow !!'s. Brd is inherently.... gimp. No it's not a matter of the gear brd can or cannot equip being good for their job, although why on earth brd can wear some things is beyond me, ie brd can wear kirin's osode and pld can't while both brd and pld can wear dusk. Anyway! that's a whole different story. Due to the purposeful gimpness of brd it has made being a main brd very difficult(mostly in abyssea), it is nearly impossible to sleep anything with lullaby because the lvl of the mobs is such that a C rank in your skill just does not cut it anymore, and landing threnodies without the help of elemental seal is extremely difficult even with good atma's, especially considering that many mobs are resistant to threnody in general. Brd is the ONLY job that does not have at least a solid B rank skill in anything it is actually supposed to use, IE wind skill, string skill and singing skill, as well as it's weapons, as opposed to other singularly purposed jobs such as blu or nin. Example's below

    Combat Skill Ratings - Brd
    Skill Skill Ranking Cap at Level 1 Cap at Level 45 Cap at Level 90
    Dagger B- 5 132 325
    Staff C+ 5 128 315
    Sword C- 5 128 305
    Club D 4 122 280
    Throwing E 4 114 255
    Evasion D 4 122 280
    Parrying E 4 114 255

    Magic Skill Ratings - Brd
    Skill Skill Ranking Cap at Level 1 Cap at Level 45 Cap at Level 90
    Singing C 5 128 310
    String C 5 128 310
    Wind C 5 128 310


    Combat Skill Ratings - Blu
    Skill Skill Ranking Cap at Level 1 Cap at Level 45 Cap at Level 90
    Sword A- 6 138 354
    Club B- 5 138 325
    Evasion C- 5 128 305
    Parrying D 4 122 280


    Magic Skill Ratings - Blu

    Skill Skill Ranking Cap at Level 1 Cap at Level 45 Cap at Level 90
    Blue Magic A+ 6 138 361


    Combat Skill Ratings - Nin
    Skill Skill Ranking Cap at Level 1 Cap at Level 45 Cap at Level 90
    Katana A- 6 138 354
    Dagger C+ 5 128 315
    Sword C 5 128 310
    Great Katana C- 5 128 305
    Club E 4 114 255
    Hand-to-Hand E 4 114 255
    Throwing A- 6 138 354
    Marksmanship C 5 128 310
    Archery E 4 114 255
    Evasion A- 6 138 354
    Parrying A- 6 138 354


    Magic Skill Ratings - Nin
    Skill Skill Ranking Cap at Level 1 Cap at Level 45 Cap at Level 90
    Ninjutsu A- 6 138 354


    As you can imagine the gap grows drastically with other jobs which are more oriented towards other things. Basically, brd is the only job that gets ANY singing, wind or string skill and yet, it has a C rank in everything and has no more or less skill + gear then any other job, Also brd has had very few updates over the years, we have gotten 1 new JA and 5 or 6 more songs to go with the level increases, nothing like the attention war or pup etc have gotten. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE upgrade our applicable stats that only BRD can use! And give US some versatility! If we're to be a back line buff job at least make us a GOOD one. I would also appreciate an ability to make single target buffs such as Etude's AoE just like sch has for it's buffs. Thank you for your time and consideration in the matter that currently plagues many brds! Also i encourage any brds to post any other suggestions they might have here as well.
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    Player Karumac's Avatar
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    The resist function vs songs works different because you combine Singing + Instrument. That's why we have a C in all 3.
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    The only time you get resisted anymore is when the monster is simply immune to whatever it is you are trying to hit it with. On that note, more monsters need to be susceptible to requiem.
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    Player Karumac's Avatar
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    Well, you also get a resist a lot when Yellow happens to be the monster's strong element.
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    Player sope's Avatar
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    Sope
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavik View Post
    If we're to be a back line buff job at least make us a GOOD one.
    1: /whm and gear/atma for cure potency.
    2: cast haste, and sing capped marches while wearing +0 skill gear.
    You are now the best back line buff job.
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    Player Khajit's Avatar
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    It seems to me that Kavik knows just about nothing about brd nor anything about what it does at all.
    I'd like to take this moment to inform him or her that there are these things called instruments that you can use.
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    Player Michae's Avatar
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    Fiyaro
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    idk how gimp ur brd is but I have no problems sleeping mobs in abyssea, landing threnodys and such and tho Im close Im not 100% skill capped. The skill for brd seems perfectly fine since as long as u keep up with ur skills landing debuffs and sleeps is cake, even in abyssea. The ONLY time I have to use elemental seal for a threnody is when i go blm/brd for seal runs. As Karu said, resistance for songs is different than those for spells, which is why brd can sleep mobs easily blm has a hard time. Brd is one of my mains and I never had an issue with landing songs.
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    Player Karumac's Avatar
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    Also, my atma: VV/RR/Apoc. I carry a Dagger and hit stuff while singing like a badass.
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    Player Medea's Avatar
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    I think you just need good atma for abyssea to sleep mobs, it goes the same with blm sleepga without atma is difficult. Also lv80 is low to land spells there speically at high chains, you will land more spells at 90 even without atma.
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    I generally don't have issues landing songs, I get a RARE resist on Elegy (with earth staff), generally on Boss level NMs and they all have insane resist rates anyway (by design). Verilei hardly ever works, but then again I hardly ever use it, or see it used by anyone. Requiem... is that being resisted or is everything above level 65 in the game just immune? No idea, I use alot of chat filters on brd in hopes of seeing when my songs die (when I have a properly placed pt to do angling), or wear off the mobs.

    I don't even have trouble landing threnody /brd, but I only do it with beast or dancer main. I think I did try it once with thf main, but I can't remember how it worked as I kept dying (pt wouldn't move the mob so I kept raising to die to immediate AoE spam). Now, trying to time a Threnody to proc is another matter, especially /brd without all my casting haste gear.
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