Concerning PvP (Player versus player).

[Krashport]

Ok we all understand the Balance within Final Fantasy XI and understanding that moving on. There are Members that would like for this system (PvP) to be implemented, Some wouldn't like it to be, As for me I really haven't made up my mind about it yet, Reason why, I been looking @ Conquest, Campaign, as well as other systems within game as it already is.

Another thing to think about is "Job" Balance. We all know some jobs overpower others that being said moving on, Every Job for the most part plays differently. But wouldn't it be very cool if you have won on a "Job" by battling against a "Job" that could overpower you?

Now looking into how the System is with Conquest and Campaign, Where players or Fiends control an area for that "Tally" Reward going to the winning team.

Now for the System I came up with, Its on going Campaign not like Ballista where you have to wait for times, Also 4 teams plus 4 other teams which are the "Beastmen", Yag, Gob, Orc, Undead, And they want control of Said area think of "Candy" out of Whitegate kind of System. Adding 4 more teams being Mob's would help those that don't want PvP which they could battle instead of using the PvP System and get points that way for their "Team".

Also 4 Teams of a different "Allegiance" PCs could Teamup Vs. the other 4 Teams "Allegiance" NPCs to help each other out. Note: Teams White: (Windy Yellow), (Bast Blue), (Sandy Red), (Jeuno Green), Can team up anytime. Teams Black: Yag, Gob, Orc, Undead, Can team up anytime.


Ok there's an area where you would zone into there's 8 sides "Teams" you can only choose from 4, Will just use colors for now: Red, Blue, Yellow, Green. Think of a big map, and PCs and NPCs walking around "Unclaimed" You have the option to put PvP up. Depending on which color "Allegiance" you picked that's the team you're working for. Ok Bob, Will, Sue, Tim, Reason why these Members are battling it out, Cause they want their side to be able to Do BCNMs, KSNMs, Quests, Each sides has different "Ones" and different rewards for that area. Also can be like a "Capture the flag" which the winning "Team" Would get Xp bonuses for that "Tally".

Claimed: If Tim and Sue, is battling it out no one can join unless their on the same team and within the party.

Now lets say: Will, and Bob, battling it out and Ken, zones in and realize Bob, is battling it out with Will, Ken, Would put their PvP up and ask Bob, does he need/want a hand. Now if Bob, doesn't want to be bothered with Members "Asking" he would have "Block on. Its up to Bob, to accept the help or not, Which if he does accept will invite Ken, to party. Also Ken, Didn't have to join Bob, He could of just went on his way looking for NPC or a PC to PvP with, But knowing Bob, He wanted to help a Buddy out.

Ok now for Sue, She doesn't like PvP at all but she doesn't have to put her PvP up. Sue, Would still have to pick a side "Allegiance" Cause Sue, Will be battling against the "Beastmen" In order to do the BCNMs, KSNMs, Quests, that area.


Reason PvP could help FFXI: We all don't want Final Fantasy XI to die, This could bring in more Members.

PS: I'm not for PvP and not against it, Just trying to understand it.

i think brenner and ballista is good the way they are and serves as the perfect pvp systems

I'm leaning towards that way to Yarly.
One reason cause there are members not "All" That would abuse the PvP (Player versus player) System, Also there are members not "All" that would spam members to PvP which would become Annoying! In that would take away from that comfort and enjoyment that Final Fantasy XI has grow to be.

[Zaknafein]

I'm def pro PvP. Consensual only of course. The system you've described would provide hours of enjoyment for people with minimum dev costs. Why anyone would be against it baffles me.

[Alhanelem]

We do have a long topic about this going already. For the most part, people are OK with PvP as long as it doesn't affect anyone that doesn't want to be affected by it.

[Sparthos]

PVP is one way to:

-End pointless "my dad is better than your dad" arguments.
-Artificially increase the difficulty of content.
-Inject some competition into a game lacking in competition.
-Play the game in a way most haven't experienced.
-Promote teamwork dummeh.

[Solsticewind]

It wouldn't matter if they was to add it. It would be just as dead as ballista is on all but few servers is the fact that so few players WISH to take part in any form of PvP in the game. If you wish to do PvP there is Ballista and a few others if its dead on your server find the ones where its active and strong and move to that server. I'm sorry but that is how it is the Dev's can't fix the players views of PvP.

[Morgantisthedon]

Look up the thread PVP on here there is alot talk already on this.... I am personaly want to see a free roam zone that people could stay out if they dont like. Or enter PvP (or teams like party or allaince) and roam kill others. If you dont like it just dont go to that zone. As I stated in other threads alot games have arena based PvP. So does this they just are not used at all if any. Incorperating ideas for a reward system would be nice to get more players involved in this. making it super complex would sorta suck I think ><; I can see keeping the gear swap penaly but just make a free roam pvp area that all can enter maybe put in mobs like in the colussem or what not... I dont want reput what I did in the other thread but there is on on this already >..> And i do agree I shouldnt have play other games to PvP if I want to! If you dont like it stay out the areas. With FFXI being as dynamic as it is I am sure you PvP haters could do something always... like go fishing

[Sparthos]

It wouldn't matter if they was to add it. It would be just as dead as ballista is on all but few servers is the fact that so few players WISH to take part in any form of PvP in the game. If you wish to do PvP there is Ballista and a few others if its dead on your server find the ones where its active and strong and move to that server. I'm sorry but that is how it is the Dev's can't fix the players views of PvP.

Add gear drops to PVP-centered events and people will become interested.

It's as simple as that really. Ballista is dead because it's a pissing match without any sense of direction or reward. SE has tried so hard to avoid PVP but ultimately we still compete with eachother in the stupidest of ways.

[Solsticewind]

Only the ones that are for PvP would be interested in such items as for the rest such gear would be of no value the fact is such players are the minority and some knowing this have moved to the server(s) where Ballista and other PvP events are going strong. As for Morgantisthedon idea the day they add that is the day I leave FF 11 for good as all such things lead to is ganking.

[Chronofantasy]

I don't really care if PvP is added. I might just try it out once then barely do it again unless it yields some really good reward. If others want it though and SE managed to add it in, then sure why not.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

PvP is like New Coke in this game.. People tried it out for a while and then decided that they liked the original better.