PVP!

[Sureal]

LOL so what your saying is, you want to (at least in the botting days) to have some newb ls claim fafhogg only to have 300 people beat the hell out of them to get claim themselves, i could honestly see fafhogg never dieing, just constant pvp while fafhogg runs around like "WTF IS GOING ON, HAY GUYS IM OVER HERE" /SPIKEFLAIL

cause we all know how well that would end up working out

[Mezzopiano]

Why is open PvP even being suggested? Sure, it might help alleviate your frustration at someone outclaiming you, but it's not actually going to solve anything here. Keep PvP as it is, as a sport and completely optional.

[rog]

LOL so what your saying is, you want to (at least in the botting days) to have some newb ls claim fafhogg only to have 300 people beat the hell out of them to get claim themselves, i could honestly see fafhogg never dieing, just constant pvp while fafhogg runs around like "WTF IS GOING ON, HAY GUYS IM OVER HERE" /SPIKEFLAIL

cause we all know how well that would end up working out

Nah, it'd die eventually. Probably after about 5-10 hours each.

[Volkai]

PvP outside of events such as Ballista or Brenner is not going to happen in FFXI. FFXI is first and foremost a game about people working together to achieve common goals, not beating the stuffing out of each other. This is a core value of the game, and a key difference between it and many other MMOs such as WoW or WAR or City of Heroes/Villains or Dark Age of Camelot or Everquest or Planetside or, well, the list goes on.

PvP in FFXI is a team-building exercise. That's why Ballista is a team-based event, why Brenner came out even more team-focused instead of less team-focused, why there's LS Liga (which as far as I know nobody actually takes part in.) It's about friendly competition.

If you want to beat the stuffing out of your fellow players for the sake of beating the stuffing out of your fellow players, FFXI is probably not the game for you.

[Harukusan]

It seems to me that people who have something negative to say about Ballista have never really experienced it the way it was meant to be, like back in the day when you could find 18+ people per team in Jugner/Pashhow/Meriph. Also, those who suggest that there isn't PVP at all just don't know what they are talking about. This isn't your topic, stay out of it.

I, for one, am a total Ballista fanatic, and would love to see it's glory days again. No one job is superior to another if you're prepared to fight them. My favorite job to play in Ballista was DRK mainly, and I would tear up all the BLUs and PLDs etc. Ballista isn't only about utilizing your own knowledge and skills to its fullest capabilities, but also knowing your opponents as well as the jobs they are playing, and how they play them. It's much much more than simple beat-'em-up, especially in a 1vs1 duel. Those of you who have participated in the real Ballista and got rocked by 10 opposing players have reason to be skeptical about it, it can be annoying (I've experienced this many times). But that's also part of the learning experience you gain. The lesson learned is "Don't do whatever it is you just did to get yourself killed!"

Again, to all you nay-sayers: don't get your panties in a knot because you have no interest in a certain aspect of the game that has been around much longer than most of you began playing. If you don't want to participate, then don't. But don't talk trash about it.

The one and only thing that I would love to see changed to Ballista is the accessibility. Since no one participates in the official matches anymore, literally everyone I ever knew to do Ballista (that still plays) has run dry of Ballista points to enter the Diorama. If we have to pay to play, I'd rather just spend a little gil, or perhaps create a new purpose for the hundreds of Beastman's/Kindred's seals/crests that are collecting dust. I also like the idea of implementing more zones available for combat, as well as the idea to request a duel with someone any time.

[Mirage]

latency isn't really that important in ffxi. Being off by .2-.3 seconds isn't really going to matter in ffxi. Obviously for some games a 300ms latency is unplayable, but ffxi is not one of those games. Absolutely nothing ever happens in <.3 seconds.

I disagree. If i have a 250 ms lag from japan and see a move being readied, it has already been in progress for 250 ms on the server, add 250 ms for my reaction command to get back to the server, and we're at 500 ms already. Assuming the player has a reaction time of 150 ms (not actually sure what most people are at, 150 sounds fast for a human) a JP player will have a 750 ms window to stun this action, while an EU player will have 350 ms. This results in the jp player being much m ore likely to stun the action in time than the eu player.

This doesn't affect an enormous part of the game, but it can be pretty annoying especially with gaze attacks. I can sit with my eyes glued to the monitor, looking for a gaze attack to be prepared, turn away within 200 ms, and still get hit by the attack even if I see the attack actually being done almost a second after i (on my own screen) turned away.

[hadeed]

i loved PvP back when ppl actually did it. was fun to test your skills against others, play around with gear and sub job set ups to maximize killing or survival. using 2hr for laughs.... there is a long overdue update for ballista/brenner if you ask me.

just a few suggestions
-different game type for PvP. like free for all and/or team deathmatch,

-good gear rewards. purchased with points perhaps. worthwhile stats that may or may not be ballista only. fast cast, movement speed, - damage taken, haste.

- PvP "atma" - can start off with 1 effect via key item and purchase another 1 or 2 with points, much like lunar abbysites. with such buffs as 100% aquaveil, - 50% damage taken, regen/refresh/haste, hp/mp , status resistance, auras.no crazy stat boosts though, such things could level the playing field for jobs that have a hard time surviving, mages were often the walking dead.

-having the conflict status would change some things around. -75% damage when attacked from behind except from sneak attack like JA (everyone would run around in circles so they can attack and not be attacked). a large increase in melee/ws range??

-other rewards that arent junk, extra ballista points for winning/mvp/best job. huge xp bonuses. job seals? 1 free skill up!!

good stuff <3 !!! keep it up people

[Wenceslao]

It seems to me that people who have something negative to say about Ballista have never really experienced it the way it was meant to be, like back in the day when you could find 18+ people per team in Jugner/Pashhow/Meriph. Also, those who suggest that there isn't PVP at all just don't know what they are talking about. This isn't your topic, stay out of it.

I, for one, am a total Ballista fanatic, and would love to see it's glory days again. No one job is superior to another if you're prepared to fight them. My favorite job to play in Ballista was DRK mainly, and I would tear up all the BLUs and PLDs etc. Ballista isn't only about utilizing your own knowledge and skills to its fullest capabilities, but also knowing your opponents as well as the jobs they are playing, and how they play them. It's much much more than simple beat-'em-up, especially in a 1vs1 duel. Those of you who have participated in the real Ballista and got rocked by 10 opposing players have reason to be skeptical about it, it can be annoying (I've experienced this many times). But that's also part of the learning experience you gain. The lesson learned is "Don't do whatever it is you just did to get yourself killed!"

Again, to all you nay-sayers: don't get your panties in a knot because you have no interest in a certain aspect of the game that has been around much longer than most of you began playing. If you don't want to participate, then don't. But don't talk trash about it.

The one and only thing that I would love to see changed to Ballista is the accessibility. Since no one participates in the official matches anymore, literally everyone I ever knew to do Ballista (that still plays) has run dry of Ballista points to enter the Diorama. If we have to pay to play, I'd rather just spend a little gil, or perhaps create a new purpose for the hundreds of Beastman's/Kindred's seals/crests that are collecting dust. I also like the idea of implementing more zones available for combat, as well as the idea to request a duel with someone any time.

I would like to have ballista glory days back too, and yeah, like many old ballista players I ran out of Ballista points a time ago.

[Solsticewind]

I say leave the PVP that is in the game as is. It is the one of the main resions I'm still playing FF 11 the other is friends. I have tried other games that was PvP all I have come back from them is the same if you are new you are nothing more then a walking target for the higher lvl's to kill for there laughs so I no longer even consider buying any of the new games that have come out because of this. If you want to do the stuff that is PvP in FF 11 thats fine just find others and make a LS for it no need to add more that well not see any more use then what is all ready in the game.

[Siviard]

When are we going to Make PVP Better! It Sucks atm
Linkshell Vs Linkshell would be great! 18 vs 18 Do Hold Land's get point's for how long you have it. What do you guys think?

Might be safe to say GoBs is Feiwong? He's the only one that cares about Ballista. lol