PVP!

[CrystalWeapon]

*Joke suggestion* Since it's hard to tell sincerity in plain text.

How about a mini-game version of PvP where both groups are tossed into an oldschool turn based battle. No running in circles, no cheap tricks, just one party vs another in classic combat.

[Odintius]

add a jump function to /face palm :P

[CrystalWeapon]

add a jump function to /face palm :P

lol.

I think the emotion /facepalm, and an animation for /slap would be nice.

[Dauntless]

SE seems to stray away from PVP because I saw an interview about FFXIV that the JP player base greatly dislikes pvp.

[Alhanelem]

PvP requires team based play. Most people seem to treat it as one on one... and it doesn't work that way since the player position is determined client side.

It's more about how classes in FFXI have some amount of synergy with eachother. It's not like WoW where every class has all the basic tools they need to survive without any support. Preists may be top of the line healers for instance, but they also have many effective damage and support abilities. Every class in WoW stands on its own, whereas some FFXI jobs only really show their stuff when there are other people around. A good team fight in Ballista is way more exciting than in WoW, where team fights usually become extremely spammy where basically the two groups are standing outside of a circle I refer to as the "death zone" where everyone is spamming their spells and attacks. WoW has much more emphasis on the individual where FFXI is centered around groups.

One isn't inherently better than the other and I'm not bashing WoW here. FFXI and WoW can both have enjoyable PvP, but the style of each is very, very different from each other. 1v1 just isn't very interesting in FFXI, but a 6v6 team fight is very exciting.

[Amanie]

this discussion makes me miss ballista alot. damn phoenix and its lack of ballista interest!!! my daggers crave blood and i want to dance on the bodies i leave behind

[Tsukino_Kaji]

THE REWARD IS THE BATTLE.

THE CONQUEST OF THE SPIRIT.

THE HUMAN FORM ERUPTING IN BURNING MANLY DIGITAL PASSION.


HRRRRNGGG.



....The screams.

And the dirty sand, in your underwear, after a weapon skill.

That's not sand.

[Anela]

For those that want PvP, I hope SE is able to adjust the system, or create one that will meet your desires better.

Please remember that there are those of us that play this game that feel no desire to go PvP outside of what already exists, if at all.

Personally, I feel no need or desire to "prove" myself. If you think you play better than I, I have no argument. You win.. heh.. The only place I "prove" myself is in battles against mobs. That is enough for me.

I have found it entertaining to participate in Ballista occasionally. This has been with friends and LS mates. It wasn't about who was better than who, rather, it was testing strategies for upcoming Boss battles. Yes, you can actually do that to a degree.

Best of luck finding a PvP system that satisfies your needs..

[Alhanelem]

Please remember that there are those of us that play this game that feel no desire to go PvP outside of what already exists, if at all.

And please remember that we aren't necessairly looking for something new. We just want what's there to be fixed up some, and possibly offer some better incentives for "on the fence" people to participate.

(And as you did mention, I also like how ballista can be used to see how things would work when used against a monster, where you cant normally see the status effects and such affecting it.)

[annewandering]

Right now we need a PvP off game say in here. How about it SE? ^^