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[Alhanelem]

you've made some good points earlier and you've said certain things that make my head hurt. I'm almost ready to give up my belief that you ever actually played Ballista legitimately.

I've played ballista as often as possible since it's release. I'm sorry that you for some reason don't believe that; I can't figure out why, but whatever, there's nothing I can do about that. Just because you think balance is fine and I don't, doesn't mean that I haven't spent many hours doing ballista.

I'm not sure what's making your head hurt- Things don't have to rise to the level of "impossible to beat" for there to be a possible balance problem. Balance is not absolute- perfectly balancing games is virtually impossible. There will always be some minor issues. Some of which I have mentioned previously have actually been addressed, if indirectly (e.g. PUP getting KOed no longer screws him over for 1/3 of the match thanks to new ability added last update). BLU I feel is one of those minor issues. I quite simply feel it has a bit of an edge that makes it more tricky to deal with than any other job. That doesn't mean it's unbeatable, just a problem.

Right, but this is still a game that wsa design to work together, not kill each other.

And you DO work together in ballista. Ballista is not a free for all, and teams with no cooperation will lose. This is also why Ballista is designed like a sport or minigame. You're not "killing eachother." It's more like tackling the other guy in football. It's a completely viable concept and the fact that there still exists a ballista community proves it. We, like anyone else, treat it as a sideshow, but it's a side show we enjoy and should not be denied. Games do not have to PvP only to have PvP.

[Teishi]

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treat it as a sideshow,

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BLU I feel is one of those minor issues. I quite simply feel it has a bit of an edge that makes it more tricky to deal with than any other job. That doesn't mean it's unbeatable, just a problem.

Not going to try to argue about balance. But one of things I find really fun about ballista is when things aren't "balanced". With strong (=smart) players, that "imbalance" just becomes part of the strategy(working together to cancel out that "imbalance").

If your server has some great blue mage that is dominating the scene, you should talk more with your fellow teammates about dealing with that person as a group.

[Faule]

I would have a more compassion for those sharing their views against FFXI's PVP system if they remotely had a solid argument. But they don't, so I don't.

[Dauntless]

Man PVP is a stupid idea for this title. Look at the problems u have when ur riding an enemies ass while they are moving,and the game still tells you they are too far away even though you are thoroughly humping them. Melee jobs would be at a huge disadvantage, easily being killed by an annoying lil bastard who just keeps moving and putting a dot on them or some crap. PVP bad idea for FF, dont improve on PVP, make PVP go away completely. There is no way to balance PVP in this type of game, NINJA would beat everything with shadows, and everyone and there mother would PVP ninja sub so no one dies anyways. Or the above problem happens where melee are riding a characters ass but its telling them they are too far away. I vote NO

False. As a DRG/SAM I spent most of my time back in the day pvping. There are only a few jobs that I couldn't beat and they are: BLU, RDM, and PLD/RDM

The BLM sleep/nuke method is not nearly as effective in pvp as you may imagine (same goes for RNG shadowbind kite method). Nin shadows and eva are a pain but by no means impossible to beat.

A few adjustments and pvp will be an enjoyable experience for every job.

Oh, and there is no such thing as a useless job in pvp. I have gotten my ass handed to me by WHM/NINs before. ; ;

[Alhanelem]

There are only a few jobs that I couldn't beat and they are: BLU,

What a shocking suprise

RDMs and PLDs are the two toughest to kill, but not as hard to survive against. Two PLDs 1v1ing eachother can last indefinitely

WHM is a job you never see people fight with (outside of the classic white mage burn party from years past), but I've never understood why- They can actually be pretty strong if you gear for it, and you're still able to cure. fighting WHMs are a suprising threat in Ballista. It's one of the fun things about playing it- you often see a lot of unexpected combinations that you don't see in PvE.

[Zebra]

now, to attract more players, allow people to switch gear without getting stunned for 10+ seconds and it would be great, that's all that needs to be done to ballista and brenner, and it would be twice as appaeling and fun, jobs unbalanced? gearswaps fixes that pretty easy.

one of the main reasons people dont enjoy pvp in this game is just because your not allowed to switch gears in it, i used to be a big fan of ballista, but it just gets plain out boring having to switch gear if your fighting x job, to end up being paralyzed for 10~ seconds.

it's too annoying to be fun. we spend hours after hours to obtain the gear we have today, we should be able to play our jobs as we are used to, even in ballista.

[Coldbrand]

False. As a DRG/SAM I spent most of my time back in the day pvping. There are only a few jobs that I couldn't beat and they are: BLU, RDM, and PLD/RDM

The BLM sleep/nuke method is not nearly as effective in pvp as you may imagine (same goes for RNG shadowbind kite method). Nin shadows and eva are a pain but by no means impossible to beat.

A few adjustments and pvp will be an enjoyable experience for every job.

Oh, and there is no such thing as a useless job in pvp. I have gotten my ass handed to me by WHM/NINs before. ; ;

WHM/NIN won the JP that international ballista tournament. You can't really kill them.

[Xilk]

Level 76+ all bst brenner was pretty fun... uncapped bst might become a real contender. enfeebling is pretty much mandatory to get away from them. With the acc, attack and enhanced movement speed many of them have... you have 3~6 hits before and you are dead. I'm guessing 6 for a high hp/def pld... Any mage is dead in 3. And they are good an interrupting spellcasting... running is futile as they don't stop hitting while running, so master can run away while pet destroys someone.
I think PLD would lose out to bst now.

rdm/nin probably still rip up bst. a well placed enfeeble + fast cast means the pet can be enfeebled out of the fight quickly.

blu can too ofcourse, if they are ready for it..
In general however, harder to land spells on bst main when they are running away and you can't nuke the pet down very quickly when they all have 4~5k hp.. and you have 1.5k at best.

[Kashel-Sylph]

now, to attract more players, allow people to switch gear without getting stunned for 10+ seconds and it would be great, that's all that needs to be done to ballista and brenner, and it would be twice as appaeling and fun, jobs unbalanced? gearswaps fixes that pretty easy.

one of the main reasons people dont enjoy pvp in this game is just because your not allowed to switch gears in it, i used to be a big fan of ballista, but it just gets plain out boring having to switch gear if your fighting x job, to end up being paralyzed for 10~ seconds.

it's too annoying to be fun. we spend hours after hours to obtain the gear we have today, we should be able to play our jobs as we are used to, even in ballista.

I had this idea, very simple Idea... walk up to another player (in a outside area) click on them, under check there will be a duel option after you click duel and the other person accepts (similar to party invite) your allowed to engage them like a mob anywhere outside of a city. during the duel you are unable to change gear macros still work but gear changes do not primarily so you don't blink also to avoid the headache of 10sec para fail. and you could do this between party leaders 6 vs 6 no balista required. It would appease the people who like PVP and if you don't like it all you have to do is decline duel... just an Idea what do you guys think of that?

[Xilk]

I had this idea, very simple Idea... walk up to another player (in a outside area) click on them, under check there will be a duel option after you click duel and the other person accepts (similar to party invite) your allowed to engage them like a mob anywhere outside of a city. during the duel you are unable to change gear macros still work but gear changes do not primarily so you don't blink also to avoid the headache of 10sec para fail. and you could do this between party leaders 6 vs 6 no balista required. It would appease the people who like PVP and if you don't like it all you have to do is decline duel... just an Idea what do you guys think of that?

yep, i thought this was a good Idea and agreed to it when I saw you post it.