PVP!

[Urteil]

Yea I would love PvP then I could gank all the people I didn't like and then camp them all day.

Dats nawt PeeVeePee.

[Runespider]

Adding serious PVP to FFXI would be like removing PVP from WoW. FFXI is a PVE game and most people like it that way, only way to really make pvp serious is to reward it with gear and that would annoy people that don't like it.

PVP also adds so many balance problems that it's far far more effort than it's worth, especially for such a small number of players.

[Urteil]

Adding serious PVP to FFXI would be like removing PVP from WoW. FFXI is a PVE game and most people like it that way, only way to really make pvp serious is to reward it with gear and that would annoy people that don't like it.

PVP also adds so many balance problems that it's far far more effort than it's worth, especially for such a small number of players.

1. Its been explicitly stated in interviews with WoW developers that the game is actually a game with strong PvE focus and with popular PvP element, its not strictly a PvP game, never was. And if you honestly think the end game raids are easy and there is no hard content in WoW you are sadly mistaken.

2. PvP is as serious as people want to it be, any good PvP player honestly doesn't give two shits about gear other than a means to an end. The 'serious' part comes from improving their abilities and doing well, not what shinies they can collect.

In reality I don't agree with there being "PvP Gearsets" I think that would ruin an aspect I like where in FFXI you have all this gear and get to pick, I am perfectly content with there being 'gear' and everyone using gear for 'situations.'

3. You imply that the game is somehow balanced right now, PvE or otherwise.

The entire myth that PvP and PvE can never be balanced is a crock, I have no idea where this came from. It's as easy as adding a specific area or status effect to combatants. This is very elementary and a fine example of this is DFO or any game with an instanced area of battle.

Aion does this by just modifying what abilities do versus human targets, its simple, simple, simple, simple, simple, programming.

Making both a PvE and PvP effect for an ability is something that has been done since....the early mid 90's.

[Harukusan]

Camping HNMs against other big LSs; is this not PvP? Competing with one another to try and achieve a similar goal? And what happens when you lose? Do you want to cry about it? Well, this is completely off the whole concept of ballista, but if I wanted to bash someone's face in, it would be through that. Stop the foreplay in abyssea with all the competition and get straight to the point. If you think you're better than someone, no, if you think you're better than FFXI's own PvP, then you should prove it. If you have nothing good to say about it for no reason, then STFU and GTFO. No one cares what you think. This thread was intended for Ballista fans who want to bring it back to light. If you're against us, and won't show your face in an actual ballista competition, then just walk away. We can't change your mind, you are entitled to your opinion and I respect that, but don't tell us about it.

[Zaknafein]

Yes yes yes plz!!! Either the zone to itself for Pvp or make it possible to reserve an uncapped ballista style area with gil.
This is a win for everyone. Helps keep people occupied in the game. Hours of endless fun from one zone.
If people don't like to Pvp don't go there very simple. I honestly think this would draw back a lot of retired players, and help to retain the current population. Plz devs hook it up

[Urteil]

If you're against us, and won't show your face in an actual ballista competition, then just walk away. We can't change your mind, you are entitled to your opinion and I respect that, but don't tell us about it.

Move to Phoenix I beg you.

MAKE IT THE BALLISTA CAPITAL.

[Hiswhitewings]

Not this again. Short version;

FFXI is easily the best balanced game for PvP. No, your WAR won't kill a RDM. But once you start getting into bigger matches, using items you find with /quarry (Lethe comes to mind which dispels buffs someone might have on) it becomes a lot more fair. Keep in mind you don't have to KILL that annoying RDM on the other team, or the WHM, or the BLM, you just have to make them either run away due to being paralyzed, silenced, or having their buffs stripped, while your own team ganks someone who was caught by Gravity, Bind, Stun, etc.

In the end, there's no way to fix this. It's obvious the FFXI community is anti-pvp for whatever reason while the pro-pvp people are spread thin amongst the servers. Only solution I can see is to have a server designated for PvP. Either one we can access via the current Ballista NPC's or by server transfer. I prefer the first option.

[Alhanelem]

Yea I would love PvP then I could gank all the people I didn't like and then camp them all day.

PvP does not mean going around the world and killing anyone you see. In FFXI it means "Doing Ballista or Brenner in a closed environment that does not affect anyone that isn't participating." Not even FFXI's few diehard PvPers want world wide PvP.

[Akuma]

leave blu alone lol. I think a upgrade to pvp is needed. it would be fun to have pvpve kind of environment better than we have now.

[Sparthos]

PVP is sorely underrated in XI.

Fort vs Fort combat would be fun, inclusive and with the right rewards would help to stir some competition - something sorely lacking in '11 XI.