PVP!

[Urteil]

Problem with XI and PvP is latency which doesn't make it fair at all for EU players, less fair for NA players and easy win for JP. Servers are in Japan. Average latency with a good DSL line from EU to SE servers is 270ms (and that's with a good DSL/Cable Line, which would gives you about 10-15ms locally). Now an average line with 50ms of latency raise that up to 300ms+.

Meanwhile, average JP player will have 50ms maximum, if not less. Knowing that a Stun is 500ms base cast time (and can be even lower now), that is simply unfair, if two mages start casting a spell at the same time, JP will always have the advantage.

Remember playing Quake when you had dial-up and your opponent had DSL? Well it's the same case here. Latency gap is as wide as the gap between DSL and dial-up.

Challenging PvP based solely on "frags" and not on "objectives" like Ballista is just out of question.

For people complaining about jobs balance, things can be adjusted for PvP only, just like it is at the moment, Mage damage are reduced, AoE spells aren't AoE etc.

Completley and total false as far as the JP vs NA advantage.

However you are 100% right, its easy to balance ANYTHING, when it is restricted to a particular Zone. A shining example is Dungeon Fighter online, where nearly every ability behaves differently in PvE than it does from the PvP Channel/Arena.

[Urteil]

Might be safe to say GoBs is Feiwong? He's the only one that cares about Ballista. lol

I care about Ballista, and I'm sure not Feiwong.

[Urteil]

being lvl 5 and having some lvl 80 come by and slaughter you just cause your there is dumb no matter what type of game your playing or how you want to play

I agree with you, this is completley dumb, and a complete 180 on anything any sane or smart person would ask for.

Or what anyone is proposing, if they implemented this shit I'd quit.

[Urteil]

Honestly, I am really put off by the idea of gear rewards for PvP because that just opens itself to people exploiting the system even more than they already do (Example: running circles around melee enemies)

Go into first person view and turn with your target, it is not that hard.

If you don't want to do that, third person following is slightly harder, right on par with tying one's shoes.

[Faule]

Count me in as a supporter for PVP alterations.

I always had high hopes SE would expand the Ballista Points beyond 2,000 and let you purchase game time buffs or ballista: "only" gear. It needs something to draw the 'maybes' and the 'never done it before' back to the field, and get some experience in.

To those raining on our parade: PVP exists in FFXI, and it has for a very long time. Where was your hatred in 2006? The benefit of having a closed PVP system is that you don't have to participate in it if you don't want to. I can't understand half of the problems people are having with this discussion.

[Alhanelem]

PvP = WoW

PVP != WoW. Different games have different PvP experiences, and having people play PvP does not suddenly make the game WoW.

PvP in FFXI will never be anything more than a minigame, but that doesn't mean there shouldn't be any incentive to play it. Some minor rewards, such as gear that works only in Ballista or something would attract people to playing it again.

No one's asking for PvP servers or open PvP combat anywhere, but we are asking for the PvP we've already been given to have some improvements.

[Urteil]

I play the game for the whole Package.

I like the FF-World, the characters, the universe and the game.

I like the PvE, the boss-fights, the stories.

And in every FF game since FF1, people have been at war, kicking the shit out of each other.

I want the whole package, but I'm not asking for the right to kill noobs or people lower level than me.

I want to battle the hardest foes, the human mind has to offer!

[Gotterdammerung]

an intuitive PVP arena would be fun. Could even be more fun if there was some way to stake gil and items. P.s. make snarl change players target please!

[Dubberrucky]

I agree there should be improvements to PvP. My LS does ballista/brenner just for fun on occasion to test our skill but we never use the actual "game" they have built into them. Its fun to just enter a completely deserted zone and kill your friends without consequence but it could be made a lot better.
A reward system of exp or gil would be exploited to no end sadly so that's not such a great idea imo but they could at least give us more options for it.

[Alhanelem]

When JPs did ballista, they took the objectives seriously. They'd usually kick your butt both at combat and at Ballista, which has some deep strategy if you actually got into it in its heyday.