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    Player GERM's Avatar
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    yeah I have never been big on PvP either.. Im not saying it shouldn't have the option such as colosseum but from experience in some games you are barraged with people who want to insult you because you don't want to PvP or in some games you can just attack anyone anywhere (in or out of town) an that just takes away from the game..
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    That's not true either. I can assure you, sub NINs don't all run away and panic every time I cast diaga to wipe their shadows
    when you get a NIN vs Soboro they flee in panic

    I also don't like the system where in this game enemies can attack you when they are a distance away but you cant attack an enemy via the same method and this reflects in PvP concept as well.. you have one guy constatnly running in circles trying to kill a recast timer the other guy with a high delay can rarely attack..

    a lot of things would have to be changed in order for this to work.. BLM sleep nuke method would kill anyone without poison pots ive been pwned by a drk with sleep bolts before.. there are just certain jobs that have a higher advantage in a PvP then others.. BRD will get ownded by anything because its just low survivability when it comes to 1 on 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by GERM View Post
    a lot of things would have to be changed in order for this to work.. BLM sleep nuke method would kill anyone without poison pots ive been pwned by a drk with sleep bolts before.. there are just certain jobs that have a higher advantage in a PvP then others.. BRD will get ownded by anything because its just low survivability when it comes to 1 on 1
    I'm not ashamed to admit that a BRD once kicked my ass fooling around 1 on 1. If you have the ability to sleep your target, or otherwise stop them from attacking you, you have a strong chance to win the fight.

    While FFXI in general was designed around team-based coordination, a little 1 on 1 duel is still fun for the typical Ballista fan. I've gained the most knowledge and experience, and shared more information with fellow players over the years through sparring sessions.

    Quote Originally Posted by CebPtolemy View Post
    In the end if you want to pvp go play a game orientated for pvp and leave ffxi for pve.
    You can't be so closed-minded to believe that a game is designed a certain way and think that there's only one way you should play it. There is more than one way to appreciate what's been made available to us. It's up to you to choose how you want to do it. For us, we choose to play Ballista as it is unique, fun, interesting, challenging, and did I say fun? Ballista used to be the original way to test your mettle. The best way to show you know how to stay on top of the game in terms of skill, gear and shear desire for competition that didn't involve camping NMs or fighting over who had the bigger e-peen vs. an EXP mob (which, if you haven't realized this by now, really really really SUCKED, and it still does).
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    more suggestion on how you can improve ballista and less explaining/hating/comparing

    the time for thinkers is over, we need doers
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    in some games you are barraged with people who want to insult you because you don't want to PvP or in some games you can just attack anyone anywhere (in or out of town) an that just takes away from the game..
    Nobody wants attack anywhere PvP. I don't, you don't, nobody does. We do want event PvP, PvP that does not interfere with anyone else's ability to play the game.
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    I would love to run around randomly killing San dorians or windurstians! There is also a flag option like wow where if you wanted to pvp you could flag for it, so if your in the middle of say an nm fight, other factions cannot attack you. But yeah PvP would be great and actually probably increase the player base
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    A way to participate in PvP outside of regular Ballista based matches that would be allowed anywhere, but without interrupting others around you, would be the ideal way to go about this. They've already got half the idea done thanks notably to FoV NMs. Now all we need is the option to propose a duel with someone, or party vs party, etc.

    Of course just straight slaughter is fun and all, but Ballista itself is more than just beating other people up. In fact, the main goal of Ballista is to score petras, not to kill people. Taking people out just made it much more interesting

    I'm all for going and doing this myself. But the last couple times I set up Ballista, no one showed up. My server doesn't have the right player base for it. I like to picture Ballista as a sort of version of chess. I might not be the king on the board, but I'd at least be a bishop or a knight, whereas Caitsith's general population would make up the pawns, some that have already been captured. By this I don't imply that they are easy targets, but due to lack of experience and probably a case of ADD, can't stay motivated to learn anything, and ultimately lose interest very quickly.
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    Last edited by Harukusan; 03-16-2011 at 09:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoBs View Post
    When are we going to Make PVP Better! It Sucks atm
    Linkshell Vs Linkshell would be great! 18 vs 18 Do Hold Land's get point's for how long you have it. What do you guys think?
    I admit I don't do it often on account I have so much else to get done on the game, but I always enjoyed doing ballista and brenner and found it a blast. So i take issue with you saying it sucks. I had more fun doing PvP on this game then I ever did on either WoW or Aion, both of which are suppose to be PvP games.
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    Allow for skillups in Ballista (Since I believe they're deactivated for the event).

    Allow for new Ballista only weapon skills or spells with focus on interesting and new enfeebling effects rather than incredible damage output. Obtainable by chevron acquisition, petra scoring, or some other measure.

    Raise the EXP reward for a match (500 EXP is a bit low).

    Create purchasable equipment (weapons/armor) with "ballista-only" stats obtainable by spending Ballista Points.

    Possibly increase the availability of Ballista areas. If a sanctioned match is not occuring, you have 2 zones whose participation can be 'rented and controlled' creating a bottleneck. Lowering the amount of exposure to potential new participants.

    Change the discharge rules, it's no fun when people leave a side after having signed up and do not get a discharge. The teams will be far too unbalanced to be enjoyable. A time limit perhaps, because there's always cause to change jobs if necessary during the match.

    I can't think of anything else. It's honest to good fun in those matches. Especially if you bring friends. Maybe that silly joke piece of gear like a clown nose just might be enough to get your friend in the linkshell to come try it out with you.
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