Quote Originally Posted by Kote View Post
I'm under the impression that the timer might be lower than Lunge. This could allow Run to spam elemental damage at a higher rate if the timer is low enough, and with only the last rune used instead of all three. Then there's the fact we can use gambit to lower that elemental resistance further. However would the difference in damage between Lunge and Swipe be simular to single target and -aga spells, or maybe swipe is just 1/3 that of lunge.. ? Would there be an increase to lunge damage?

Lunge is also magical damage, and I'm fairly sure it can be used as a magic burst if timed with the right runes active. If swipe is also magical elemental damage then it could add an extra source of magic burst. Gambit > Ws1 (aply 1 rune) + Ws2 > skillchain> Blm+swipe = Magic Burst x2 (hopefully gambit is still up)
I should have been more clear in my statment. When I said "Swipe boggles my mind", I mean it in the sense of they just said they want to make RUN more capable to tank. Unless this has heavy enmity strapped to it, all it will be is an extra JA proc and a way to add damage during Invincible. That's all it has going for it is being magical damage so far. I highly doubt SE made Swipe as potent as Lunge because they didn't mention Lunge in the update (though I hope talks about it have them reconsider it). Without even needing to test it, Swipe will just lower your damage over time because of the inherent delay of using any job ability and resuming auto attacking. Swipe > JA delay > Rune Enchantment > JA Delay. So it doesn't increase your damage over time and therefore will not increase your enmity unless it has some huge enmity amount tacked on to it.

Regarding Magic Bursting, setting up a skillchain is just not practical any more unless the enemy you're fighting needs skillchains to be made (which is barely anything) or you're doing a self-skillchain. As RUN/SAM, you'll be losing Provoke which is why I'm hoping this has enmity strapped to it. The only thing Swipe looks to do is give another source of elemental damage but that doesn't really help RUN with tanking or anything really. Is it cool to have another ability to swing and do elemental damage? Sure. Is it effective? Not really, not if it's just a mini-Lunge.