Auction House - Remove 7 item listing cap

[Zyeriis]

If people repeat it enough, it becomes true right? It has to!

Anyway, as I asked earlier. Is there any proof? I'm not saying that everyone is a dirty liar, I just like references when I see accusations and I'm sure this will help educate the general public, too.

On this case, it was definently stated by the FFXI dev team at some point. I don't remember the exact time and location but, it was definently a response they gave regarding increasing the number of items you can have up at any time on the auction house.

[Avarice]

I just wanted to point out, since a lot of people seem to be bringing the subject up, that the backwards beetle foot is also a victim of PS2 limitations. I mean god damn, we've been forced to stare at that foot for far too long; the only things in this world that are beautiful are things that have SYMMETRY, and that beetle foot does NOT comply with that standard!

[DrDelicious]

Anyway, as I asked earlier. Is there any proof? I'm not saying that everyone is a dirty liar, I just like references when I see accusations and I'm sure this will help educate the general public, too.

there is proof, but im not going to dig it up. like i said, check the fanfest notes for the last few years. i know they mentioned something about the AH and the 7 item limit and why they cant raise it. and i know part of the reason was ps2, but im sure there are other factors also.

[Mirage]

Maybe you should be able to set the amount of days you want something to stay up, and then let AH fees depend on how long you want to keep them up. Like 10 days up would be somewhere between the same and twice the fee as we have today, and 3-5 days would cost less than we have today.

[Yarly]

It is true though. I am not sure if it was soley on ps2 limtatiosn but it has to do with something with server load bowing to the ps2 that could only handle 7 items or something.

I know this wow lets you put up unlimited items on AH so the only reason SE has the cap has to do with some limtation and most liky related to ps2 since WoW is comp only

Well, server load shouldn't have anything to do with PS2 problems. Unless the FFXI servers are hosted on PS2... then it all makes sense.

Otherwise your basis of PS2 limitation is based purely on speculation and circumstantial evidence. There's nothing wrong with that, though, because that's one step closer to proving it.

The best thing would just be for a dev to step in and say YES/NO the PS2 is the limiting factor of the AH.

ON topic:

There needs to be an arbitrary cap to AH slots. Did you people forget that SE is a business?

How many of you have mules that you send stuff to sell because of the current system? How many of you wouldn't need those mules anymore if there wasn't a cap? If even ONE person cancels an ID that's a loss of money. They aren't going to GAIN money from lifting the cap, and you aren't going to quit if the cap isn't completely removed.

The compromise would be to increase the cap, this way they minimize their loss in revenue from people no longer needing AH mules and they keep people happy with more AH slots.

[DrDelicious]

Maybe you should be able to set the amount of days you want something to stay up, and then let AH fees depend on how long you want to keep them up. Like 10 days up would be somewhere between the same and twice the fee as we have today, and 3-5 days would cost less than we have today.

yeah, a longer AH time would be awesome, and they could easily do it. ive had to put things up for AH like 5+ times before they sell, and a longer time might also get people to put stuff that doesnt sell right away up, because they know it just wont be in their dbox 3 days later

[magnius]

i do remember reading this somewhere on the ffxi notes or something. but im not going to go diving through 6 or so years or notes, updates and communication to find it

On this case, it was definently stated by the FFXI dev team at some point. I don't remember the exact time and location but, it was definently a response they gave regarding increasing the number of items you can have up at any time on the auction house.

Yeah. If you wanted to really know definitely though you're more than welcomed to sift through all that info. But I remember reading it on some Fanfest questionaire thing to Devs, maybe? It was so long ago.

However, their plans to redo the AH might free up slots to put more things up. This is only speculations though.

[Zyeriis]

Well, server load shouldn't have anything to do with PS2 problems. Unless the FFXI servers are hosted on PS2... then it all makes sense.

Otherwise your basis of PS2 limitation is based purely on speculation and circumstantial evidence. There's nothing wrong with that, though, because that's one step closer to proving it.

The best thing would just be for a dev to step in and say YES/NO the PS2 is the limiting factor of the AH.

On this case, it was definently stated by the FFXI dev team at some point. I don't remember the exact time and location but, it was definently a response they gave regarding increasing the number of items you can have up at any time on the auction house.

^ The above was stated prior to your post.

[Alderin]

In the weapons / armour topic - being no weapons / armour for lower levels is true, but I will be honest if something sells for 10k and NPC's for like 3k.. I would probably just NPC it because the value of gil has gone down sooooo much these days..

Unless there was a way to seperate the amount of weapons / armour you can put up depending on level.. So let's assume 5 pieces (so a full set), could be put up for Lvl 1-40, 41-60, 61-75, 75-90, 91-99 (or something similar) for a total items of 25 pieces of gear you could effectively sell..

My assumption as to why they lowered it from 10 to 7 items is due to RMT's spamming the market. For every 100 RMT's they are putting up an extra 30 items up on AH.. Which does add up.

The other assumption as to why they added a timer on bidding on the AH is because of AH camping bots / people buying everything on the AH to power skill a craft or synth, or to prevent people from buying everything of one particular item for 10k a stack and selling for 12k a stack..

As I said they are just assumptions, and the RMT issue is much lower now then it used to be (flash backs of 40 fishing bots standing in Batallia downs). So I agree, increasing the number back up to 10x items would work.

I also agree with removing the time that dumps it back to your AH. It would increase the number of lvl 1-75 gear that is available.

[Yarly]

^ The above was stated prior to your post.

I've googled and skimmed the dev panels for 2006 2007 2008 and vanafest 2010. The only thing regarding auction houses was a concern for lack of low level gear up on the AH. So far, nothing. All the replies I got were just "i saw it but i dunno where" or "i'm too lazy to look it up" and that doesn't work too well when trying to prove something to the general public. I did the work, and I looked at the websites and searched forums.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying you're LYING until I see proof. I'm just asking for source and even after trying to look for the source myself, I can't find it. How can you expect people to believe you when you shoot down anyone who's trying to believe you?

Also, you made that post while I was writing it. I read your post after I pressed reply. Just like I'm sure there will be posts after Alterin's when I finish this post.

I want to believe!

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