PS2 limitation new Zone solution.

[Ilax]

I was thinking about it, SE could make totally new zone for none-PS2 player, those new zone would have new graphic/monster/texture etc.

Let say the same gear would drop from these zone, let say that could be NEW abyssea alternative for everyone that is not playing on PS2 console. I think that would open a new world for DEV, and also could interest tons of new player, without leaving PS2 support, also note how it would decrease zone occupation.

Some of you might remember many of my comment saying how this game need a better challenge, this would open the door for it New monster could be harder for the same gear stats but they have different color/texture, so in the end it could interest back the hardcore player.

for sure all this is possible, the real question is if SE have the $$$ for a project like that, but what you guys think about the idea?

[Mordanthos]

I was thinking about it, SE could make totally new zone for none-PS2 player, those new zone would have new graphic/monster/texture etc.

Let say the same gear would drop from these zone, let say that could be NEW abyssea alternative for everyone that is not playing on PS2 console. I think that would open a new world for DEV, and also could interest tons of new player, without leaving PS2 support, also note how it would decrease zone occupation.

Some of you might remember many of my comment saying how this game need a better challenge, this would open the door for it New monster could be harder for the same gear stats but they have different color/texture, so in the end it could interest back the hardcore player.

for sure all this is possible, the real question is if SE have the $$$ for a project like that, but what you guys think about the idea?

This just cant happen, and everyones idea of just, hey just make it not available to PS2 users is an impossible and unfair limitation. Its horrible business practice. For people who just cant afford to get a computer, that leaves them limited to the amount of fun, content, and almost not played with anymore becuase if this were to happen, everyone would go to the new areas and leave the PS2 players in the dust. Eventually what is going to HAVE to happen, whether they like it or not, is they will have to cut off the support to the PS2 and it most likely WILL happen, but of course, its going to be a while before they make a decision like that. It wont happen until they are absolutely positively sure that they can still make a buck on the services, and in order to do that, the content has to stay rewarding for players to keep playing, and if its not too large to fit into the PS2, the PS2 will live on until it is deemed impossible for the game to expand when they are planning to expand.

[Antonioklaus]

This just cant happen, and everyones idea of just, hey just make it not available to PS2 users is an impossible and unfair limitation. Its horrible business practice. For people who just cant afford to get a computer, that leaves them limited to the amount of fun, content, and almost not played with anymore becuase if this were to happen, everyone would go to the new areas and leave the PS2 players in the dust. Eventually what is going to HAVE to happen, whether they like it or not, is they will have to cut off the support to the PS2 and it most likely WILL happen, but of course, its going to be a while before they make a decision like that. It wont happen until they are absolutely positively sure that they can still make a buck on the services, and in order to do that, the content has to stay rewarding for players to keep playing, and if its not too large to fit into the PS2, the PS2 will live on until it is deemed impossible for the game to expand when they are planning to expand.

People and business' still use IE6!

[Soulrunner]

Here's a solution, a final solution.

SE: "We like to thank all our loyal players for their continued support of FFXI, We would like to announce that we are working on the next full Expansion to FFXI for the "Xbox 360, PC, and PS3" systems. We regrettably must announce that the next expansion will not support the PS2 system, although you may continue to play FFXI up to the most recent prior expansion, this system will be incompatible with further expansions. Thank you"

That's all they have to do, make a full expansion and exclude ps2 from it, but offer the game with next expansion for ps3 as an alternative. Hell i'd buy it.

[Nephilipitou]

For people who just cant afford to get a computer,

There are people playing this game on PS2 who can't afford a netbook or don't even have a 5 year old computer? This game isn't taxing. A 200-300 dollar netbook can do it. They could even get a 360 to play it since you don't have to have an XBLG account to play FFXI. I'd like to see what the minimum PC specs to getting it functioning at or better than PS2 quality would take.

But if they can't afford to get a computer that is powerful enough to play FFXI I think they have much more important problems than not being able to play Abyssea content. Like having virtually no money. I'm sure if they pawned off stuff they didn't need, use, or sell some of their old games, they could get enough money to buy a computer powerful enough.

I don't think those arguments are valid.

Having content that you can not buy through the PS2 version shouldn't be an issue, however I would argue that they fixed the PS2 limitations. Before with an update all the files would be downloaded then rewritten aftewards.

Now a file is rewritten after its replacement is downloaded. So a 3GB update would need 6-7GB of free space (including a few hundred to a gig's worth of free space for various data related needs such as temporary files)

That's why some people couldn't download updates without reinstalling FFXI on their hard drive. If they drop Xbox/PS2 support I'd hope that they'd bring on a graphical overhaul along with it since FFXIV started off as a Graphics upgrade for XI. I'd like to see them do it in the middle range though.

So I think that we should be good to get to 99 at this point personally but then again I'm just going off of what devs have said and making my own conclusions. I'm not a dev myself.

[Ilax]

There are people playing this game on PS2 who can't afford a netbook or don't even have a 5 year old computer? This game isn't taxing. A 200-300 dollar netbook can do it. They could even get a 360 to play it since you don't have to have an XBLG account to play FFXI. I'd like to see what the minimum PC specs to getting it functioning at or better than PS2 quality would take.

But if they can't afford to get a computer that is powerful enough to play FFXI I think they have much more important problems than not being able to play Abyssea content. Like having virtually no money. I'm sure if they pawned off stuff they didn't need, use, or sell some of their old games, they could get enough money to buy a computer powerful enough.

I don't think those arguments are valid.

They are not for sure, even SE at this point could give them a computer for free... I mean jeez even Bell Canada was giving Laptop for new customer for only 10$/month...

[NightDagger]

There are people playing this game on PS2 who can't afford a netbook or don't even have a 5 year old computer? This game isn't taxing. A 200-300 dollar netbook can do it. They could even get a 360 to play it since you don't have to have an XBLG account to play FFXI. I'd like to see what the minimum PC specs to getting it functioning at or better than PS2 quality would take.

But if they can't afford to get a computer that is powerful enough to play FFXI I think they have much more important problems than not being able to play Abyssea content. Like having virtually no money. I'm sure if they pawned off stuff they didn't need, use, or sell some of their old games, they could get enough money to buy a computer powerful enough.

I don't think those arguments are valid.

I am lucky I own all gaming consoles. I do not own a PC I have a Mac. I prefer the Mac over PC any day. But I am unable to play a lot of games & refuse to run windows 7 on bootcamp again. You have to use a 3rd party UI or smtp program to control the fans or else you fry the HDD, CPU & the such (my wife did that 6 months ago). So it is not worth the money to "hope" my wife remembers to turn the fan speed up.

[rog]

So it is not worth the money to "hope" my wife remembers to turn the fan speed up.

It's too much work to set a program to start up with windows to do it automagically...?

[NightDagger]

It's too much work to set a program to start up with windows to do it automagically...?

best i was able to do was have ifan run at start up but it reset to default values. So I had to teach my wife how to use dos to set fan speed to around 3000rpm & get the cpu speed to 2200 & video card speed to 3500.

Best alternative is smc fan, which you either setup manually or boot into OSX and then into windows so the sms fan will copy the OSX settings. would love to find a good UI that allows me to create a statup setting.

[Rambus]

This just cant happen, and everyones idea of just, hey just make it not available to PS2 users is an impossible and unfair limitation. Its horrible business practice. For people who just cant afford to get a computer, that leaves them limited to the amount of fun, content, and almost not played with anymore becuase if this were to happen, everyone would go to the new areas and leave the PS2 players in the dust. Eventually what is going to HAVE to happen, whether they like it or not, is they will have to cut off the support to the PS2 and it most likely WILL happen, but of course, its going to be a while before they make a decision like that. It wont happen until they are absolutely positively sure that they can still make a buck on the services, and in order to do that, the content has to stay rewarding for players to keep playing, and if its not too large to fit into the PS2, the PS2 will live on until it is deemed impossible for the game to expand when they are planning to expand.

ok let me ask you what is best:
1. shutting the game down
2. Getting rid of Ps2 support so it is ps3 only
3. giving new content that ps2 can't acess
4. deleating 75 content instances.

to me the bad business practice is bowing down to 10% of your total revenue or w/e.
do sony even make ps2 or sell replacement hard drives? really no reason to support the ps2 anymore, when your p2 brakes its prob best to buy a ps3 to replace it.