Quote Originally Posted by Riggs View Post
i don't except this statement that its our fault se made this a grind because we asked for it, frankly even if we did its been so badly implemented if boggles the mind. so what do we have so far, rme weapons that were the best but took a long time to get, se introduce better weapons that for many were easier to get.
RME owners complained.
So for many people here the logical thing to do would be to introduce a short quick quest to bring them back on par with dev weapons and then introduce a more grind development system going forward.

Did they do this? no. all they did was piss of the RME people even more.
Relics became far to common and could be made solo in little time. Now few will be able to make them fast and the rest will take longer. So yes the root of the problem is SE for the dyna revamps making relics soloable and it is not logical at all for a fast quest to be back on top or on par just would mean more work later on for a MMO with a small staff. You all forget this game is paid for and would even make a good profit with only a couple servers of players, not to mention this no longer their flag ship MMO. Most likely there is many in SE that would like nothing more then the game to die off so any threats of leaving doesn't worry SE at all most of you will end up on 14 anyway. Don't believe me the fanbase has already shown they are blind little lemmings and anything with the name Final fantasy on it will sell and people will play.

Stompa if you know so many people that have no LS to help with farming reforge items why not team up and do the normal runs and if everyone takes one orb you can get many drops in a short amount of time. You get personal drops from each orb used plus the loot pool. You also seem to be forgetting that what you are talking about with the proc system you needed a blm, whm, nin and blu to hit all the procs in abyssea. You could change out the nin with thf for TH and hope the blu had enough M.acc to hit nin drk or had a drink on them. If you didn't have proc it was a long grind for those as well if you soloed them. So it wasn't as easy as you seem to be remembering. People could be waiting to see if they will allow exchanges with old seals before joining pugs. But really at normal the fights are no harder then they were at 75 if you have wkr and skirmish II gear. If you don't even have that how lazy can one get. Skirmish is so mind numbing easy that anyone in byald gear can do T2 or even T3 with out much effort. Then back at 75 with old af it could take a lot of effort trying to get help with some of the more annoying AF fights more so if you were doing them at level on your first job.

You may call it a straw man but people whine and complained about how easy it was to get emp armor even to +2 it. What were you doing when people were saying all that, were you telling them it was a good idea that it was easy and that how the game should be or were in enjoying the game while they were on here being vocal.