Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
Well then why complaining if you are ok with a weapon that is slighly worse than RME ? The main avantage I see with the current game is that new players are not left out while old players are not left out either. At the same time there is still a hierarchy between weapons, which is necessary in an MMO. Math say for instance that spharai and vere are roughly 5% better damage than oat. For some it's too little to be worth it. Ok. For other more dedicated people, they will have to upgrade it through a process that is not really tedious unlike what has been said (I'm already 113/300 after 6-7 hours of doing delve 6-man style, someone that plays serisouly every day will probably need 2 to 3 weeks only).
I completely agree with this, if your argument is why spend hours doing RMEs when you can spend an hour doing Delve for Oats, why do you care in the first place? Oats are not as good, either that means cut your losses, save your time, and get your Oats, or spend your time getting the better weapon and stop complaining you need 300 items to do it which are not even that hard to obtain.

Quote Originally Posted by predatory View Post
A few people I knew on Bahamut viewed it as a way for them to get the weapons they wanted for their jobs after all, and it's really sad that SE gave them, (and everyone who had them before SoA), such a hard slap in the face for all the time and effort put into this
Its not a slap in the face to ask people to work for a better weapon, you can still make these without even entering Delve a single time.

Quote Originally Posted by Mefuki View Post
People have been saying, "great, now I have 5+ weapons to work on. This is stupid." Who says you have to update them all. Who says you have to update any of them. The different between RME and Delve is 5% or so I've read in RME's favour. Enough that it's actually worth working toward but not enough that you couldn't get by with other weapons (not at all like when Delve weapons came out which had 40% or so on people's then useless RME.)

And now they're talking about trying to make future gear a little more lateral rather than vertical? That's great. A lot of us were complaining about that too. So, far from a "slap in the face", a lot (not all) of this update was SE saying, "You're right, that was dumb. We'll try to get the game back on track".
This is really how it is, they gave us something to do, it has a lot of good things about it, and all people are doing is complaining. We complained enough to get the game going a bit more on track, its ok to stop now guys, we can calm down on this subject, complain about the other issues like jobs with bad RF/SPs and balance issues which cause jobs to be neglected by the players, stuff like that, as well as needing more unique content and such, we won this battle, and the relating battles.