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[Sigynh]

I saw the aurore set.

What are all the cool kids wearing for throwing items, rings, and earrings these days?

Still using my plectrum for healing, Ulthalam's/Raja's, and Suppa/Brutal

thanks!

[Alkalinehoe]

Charis Feather, Rajas/Heed (or Rajas/Epona's if you can get one) and earrings stayed the same.

Aurore is ok, but don't full time it or TP in the full set. Dusk Gloves>Aurore Hands, W. Turban>Aurore Head, etc.

Aim for your AF3+1! With your abyssea you should shoot from 75->90 very quickly.

[Anethia]

Charis Feather, Rajas/Heed (or Rajas/Epona's if you can get one) and earrings stayed the same.

Aurore is ok, but don't full time it or TP in the full set. Dusk Gloves>Aurore Hands, W. Turban>Aurore Head, etc.

Aim for your AF3+1! With your abyssea you should shoot from 75->90 very quickly.

Fulltiming the full set is just fine, you actually don't gain anything from turban and dusk besides 2 haste and 5 att (which is better reserved for ws, but is ultimately a waste of inventory), you lose 2 acc, 4 evasion and 4 store TP. It's just not worth it. The earrings and rings I can say that whatever you use at 75 will hold you over til 90+, though there is better stuff out there. I full time raja ring and still use sniper ring (which I will switch with epona's if I can get it). Earrings I full time suppanomimi and brutal. Throwing, get your hands on charis feather soon as you can.

Passed 80 you wanna get af3+1. You can full time the aurore body. A lot od people will still swear by SH and SH+1, but the acc and Eva stats are exactly the same, and with aurore doublet you gain 2% double attack that sh and SH+1 don't have. Back: amemet +1 and boxers mantel (ws and eva set, get atheling mantel first chance you get as a TP/ws piece it is one sexy item).

I could could go into my set up but I have 3 sets of gear I macro through. If you would like more tips I'll post em after I get off work.

[Alkalinehoe]

Fulltiming the full set is just fine, you actually don't gain anything from turban and dusk besides 2 haste and 5 att (which is better reserved for ws, but is ultimately a waste of inventory), you lose 2 acc, 4 evasion and 4 store TP. It's just not worth it. The earrings and rings I can say that whatever you use at 75 will hold you over til 90+, though there is better stuff out there. I full time raja ring and still use sniper ring (which I will switch with epona's if I can get it). Earrings I full time suppanomimi and brutal. Throwing, get your hands on charis feather soon as you can.

Passed 80 you wanna get af3+1. You can full time the aurore body. A lot od people will still swear by SH and SH+1, but the acc and Eva stats are exactly the same, and with aurore doublet you gain 2% double attack that sh and SH+1 don't have. Back: amemet +1 and boxers mantel (ws and eva set, get atheling mantel first chance you get as a TP/ws piece it is one sexy item).

I could could go into my set up but I have 3 sets of gear I macro through. If you would like more tips I'll post em after I get off work.

No, if you aren't capping haste (and you aren't if you are tping in full Aurore) then Turban and Dusk win. Rapparree should also beat out Aurore body when DDing and most of the time I tank in charis Body +2 which doesn't have EVA on it, so you really don't need Aurore Doublet unless you need the Evasion.

I'm not sure how many times i have to say this, ACC is a moot point in Abyssea, stop bringing it up lol. So the real comparison is between 6% Haste Vs. Store TP+4. Yeah, don't fulltime aurore.

[Dawnn]

Yeah lets please NOT advise new/returning dancers to TP in full aurore -.-

[Anethia]

No, if you aren't capping haste (and you aren't if you are tping in full Aurore) then Turban and Dusk win. Rapparree should also beat out Aurore body when DDing and most of the time I tank in charis Body +2 which doesn't have EVA on it, so you really don't need Aurore Doublet unless you need the Evasion.

I'm not sure how many times i have to say this, ACC is a moot point in Abyssea, stop bringing it up lol. So the real comparison is between 6% Haste Vs. Store TP+4. Yeah, don't fulltime aurore.

And you seem to forget there is more in the game than just abyssea, ranpare harness is pretty much useless inside abyssea as well. Full time aurore if you want, 2% haste is not that important with fully merited haste samba and a 7-9% DA build. Stacking a multi attack build > haste both inside and outside abyssea, with or without atma. I.e. Aurore doublet 2% DA, brutal 5%, twilight belt 2 or 3% (I dont remember right off the top of my head) and 7% haste. Heck even with just a swift belt you are nearing delay cap with merited haste samba along with all the DW- equipment we get with charis body +1/+2, suppanomimi, charis necklace, and auric dagger.

I agree with charis+2, I'd full time that if I had it.

[Dawnn]

And to contribute~

for your charis head seals, Berstuk and Gieremund are easily soloable

I solo'd berstuk without any eva atmas, hell all I had one was RR and VV i think, i dont remember the second atma, just stun the purulent ooze or whatever. If you have your Charis casaque, i highly recommend macroing it in!

Gieremund is easier than berstuk, if you wanted to just throw up fan dance, and basically afk for 5 mins. With any sort of evasion atma he isn't much of a threat

Also if you have a few blm/blu/nin/brd friends try to get them to tag along. Yellow weaknesses cause an increased drop rate of seals (I'm not sure if you know anything about abyssea weaknesses but you can find it on wiki on the main abyssea page)

[Dawnn]

Haste vs Double attack?

really?
If you want a multi-attack build then grab this WONDERFUL atma called Voracious Violet or Atma of the Apocalypse
as for outside abyssea (not sure what there is to be fighting at the moment) I'd still use full haste

Also if i remember correctly Saber Dance makes your DA rate unaffected by gear, which would make stacking DA gear useless, and in return, make stacking haste much more important

[Alkalinehoe]

And you seem to forget there is more in the game than just abyssea, ranpare harness is pretty much useless inside abyssea as well. Full time aurore if you want, 2% haste is not that important with fully merited haste samba and a 7-9% DA build. Stacking a multi attack build > haste both inside and outside abyssea, with or without atma. I.e. Aurore doublet 2% DA, brutal 5%, twilight belt 2 or 3% (I dont remember right off the top of my head) and 7% haste. Heck even with just a swift belt you are nearing delay cap with merited haste samba along with all the DW- equipment we get with charis body +1/+2, suppanomimi, charis necklace, and auric dagger.

I agree with charis+2, I'd full time that if I had it.

How is Rapparree useless in Abyssea? Ok first off, you are not telling me that stacking DA is superior to stacking Haste, because it isn't. Why do you bring up other pieces of gear? We were talking about body slots. Ultimately, it's 4% Haste Vs. Store TP+4 (When you don't need the ACC or EVA), Rapp wins. When you need the EVA, obviously you should use Aurore. But there is no reason you should be full timing it.

Also, how you are "nearing" the delay cap?

1. Assuming you're full timing aurore set with that Swift Belt, you're only hitting 15% haste, Still missing 11% haste to cap. If you're using Twilight, that's 18% Haste, still missing another 7%. Now, Rapp+W Turban+Swift+Dusk Gloves will give you 17% haste w/ Swift, 20% with Twilight. Still no where near gear haste cap.
2. You do realize Auric Dagger is a shitty dagger to begin with? It's only real use is for Subtle Blow, which is pretty easy to cap now a days without anyways. It's low damage and high delay really aren't worth it for 5% delay reduction, especially when you can cap delay reduction without it.
3. Dual Wield is not superior to haste. They both make you attack faster but DW lowers the amount of TP gained per hit, haste does not. Capping gear haste should be your priority.
4. Haste benefits get larger as you add more haste, Double/Triple attack do not. Stacking haste is better.
5. I don't full time Charis body+2, don't put words into my mouth. I swap when necessary, but most times when tanking the EVA isn't necessary, especially when you have a WHM.

[Dawnn]

lol pretty much what he said ^

also if you want some real GOOD advice Ninian is an awesome dancer and good at explaining pretty much everything
I'd definetly take the time to read the guide

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/15...ans-dnc-guide/