The noob moments that you have witnessed that made you /facepalm...

[Babekeke]

Isn't the sleep line of spells one of the ones that got enmity nerfed down or some such a year or so ago? (pretty much bringing an end to RDM tank, PLD/RDM, etc)

I'm pretty sure even the gimpiest of gimps can hit for more than 1 damage, even in abyssea.

Edit: Just looked it up, it's 1 CE and 300 VE. woohoo a whole 5 seconds of hate.

I guess it depends what else you do. As RDM/BLM sleeper, I'll generally feel obliged to toss a cure onto the puller after they're slept too. And sometimes I'll have been the puller, so I will have cast either break, gravity, slow or para 2 on each mob I pulled too. You usually find it's level 75ish players who do it, so they don't hit for much. Your average 90 melee should hit for 200-300+ in one attack round, pulling hate satisfactorily.

[cidbahamut]

Isn't the sleep line of spells one of the ones that got enmity nerfed down or some such a year or so ago? (pretty much bringing an end to RDM tank, PLD/RDM, etc)

I'm pretty sure even the gimpiest of gimps can hit for more than 1 damage, even in abyssea.

Edit: Just looked it up, it's 1 CE and 300 VE. woohoo a whole 5 seconds of hate.

They only nerfed Sleep, so if you're tossing Sleepgas you're still getting 180 CE, which is more than some folks can handle.

More than that I find it problematic when I try to drag a mob away from the group to nuke it down in quick order only to have the roaming DDs chase after it and break sleep with all of 50 damage after I've dropped a nuke for 2.5k+. Seriously, I've got this under control guys, go tickle the other mobs to death so I can get the second nuke off without having to renew Stoneskin.

[Meyi]

They only nerfed Sleep, so if you're tossing Sleepgas you're still getting 180 CE, which is more than some folks can handle.

More than that I find it problematic when I try to drag a mob away from the group to nuke it down in quick order only to have the roaming DDs chase after it and break sleep with all of 50 damage after I've dropped a nuke for 2.5k+. Seriously, I've got this under control guys, go tickle the other mobs to death so I can get the second nuke off without having to renew Stoneskin.

This. DD rarely ever pull with something powerful like a weaponskill, which means a dead black mage. :< I wish they'd leave my sleeping monsters alone because I know what I'm doing...

[Bubeeky]

the problem is that when the mobs get woken up, in my experiences, it's not using some significant source of damage, that I wouldn't have an issue with...the mobs get woken up with something lame like sandspin or dia or something equally low level and useless at the level most aby mobs are at...it's hard to nuke or sleep or re-sleep or w/e when your "DD allies" are helping the mobs to resist you lol

[Reiterpallasch]

Luckily BLM gets a very handy spell at dealing with idiot DDs (if they're in your party, anyways)

[Zyeriis]

Luckily BLM gets a very handy spell at dealing with idiot DDs (if they're in your party, anyways)

They get 2 such spells. I'm torn on which one is funnier (better).

[Glamdring]

Things that make me /facepalm: WAR/NIN

I don't LIKE to /nin, but I was leveling it to 49 for SJ use. With the shortage of leveling tanks these days I was the tank, thus normally /nin, using axe/shield. When you got no options you take what you get, and I got bird partys in east Ron (s). NOT my 1st choice, but it beat soloing.

[Glamdring]

the problem is that when the mobs get woken up, in my experiences, it's not using some significant source of damage, that I wouldn't have an issue with...the mobs get woken up with something lame like sandspin or dia or something equally low level and useless at the level most aby mobs are at...it's hard to nuke or sleep or re-sleep or w/e when your "DD allies" are helping the mobs to resist you lol

and the DoT just "helps" LOADS...

[Leonlionheart]

I don't LIKE to /nin, but I was leveling it to 49 for SJ use. With the shortage of leveling tanks these days I was the tank, thus normally /nin, using axe/shield. When you got no options you take what you get, and I got bird partys in east Ron (s). NOT my 1st choice, but it beat soloing.

Well when the situation calls for it it's whatever.

But for me, Seigan+Third Eye seems more than enough/more reliable.

[Zatias]

I saw a noob moment yesterday.

Friend needed 2 seals to complete his BST legs. Was in middle of killing Flame Skimmer and we had gotten the trigger, suddenly he pops out into Valkurm.

"F**K!!!!!"

He forgot to add more time, and since he timed out, no last 2 seals for him.