Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
I do play FFXIV honestly I think its a great game but I already capped out almost everything there is to do in it. It's just a difference of opinion I know people who quit FFXI because of side grades and there was no gear progression. I am very happy with the way FFXI is now, I don't see anyone in my LS complaining about it. They even updating relics/empyreans/mythic because people complained about it. Also I can distinctly remember lots of people complaining about how there were too many side grades in the game. Most of the people who didn't like upgrades quit when the level cap was raised I thought because abyssea was direct upgrades to gear.

SoA is really no different then Abyssea just the power level gap is bigger this time around. I think they wanted to raise the level cap again but they couldn't due to PS2 limitations.

Also 10 min WP is only beatable by a very small fraction I mean less then .1% of the population and takes a very specific set up, pld, whm, brd, blm. 2 dps classes that are very good at aoe. I done it countless times and have darklight for every class, but the majority of the playerbase does not have the ability to do this. This is only accomplished by taking those 4 jobs geared with at least some ilvl 90 gear.

If you don't want to help people get on the same tier as you, then your obviously not a good friend/ls member. When abyssea came out I helped a lot of friends get caught up with seals and +2s.

Lots of people are fine with the upgardes they just don't sit here and complain about it on the forums.
Don't worry, if you want more vertical progression MMORPG I can find 10 more titles for you, do you want western style or anime style?

And leave FFXI alone ty I want to get my ass kicked by lv 90 rabbits, I don't want to kill Tojil +5 NM in 5 min after 6 months

And you do realize it's just the matter of time for 50% of population to do sub 10 min WP run right? Because of vertical gear progression. Players don't have more than a few pieces of IL90 because of mythology cap and coil lock out, wait for 2 months everyone and their mother, brother, grandpa and grandma can beat it in 10 min.

You stated that "you're happy with the way FFXI is now", you do know that majority of the players who QQ here are done with the game too, due to nothing else to work on. So how can you be happy with a game ppl have nothing to do?

I only log on 2~3 days a week to play FFXIV now, since I can finish coil 1~4+ mythology cap in 2~3 night(hardcore can finish it in 1 day, inb4 go do T5). It's really hard for me to say "I'm happy with current XIV now", when I paid $10 a month and only get to play 2~3 night a week. This applies to XI. And it's all because of vertical gear progression.

Lol at "you must be bad LS member/friend if you don't do lower tier", you don't understand human nature I guess. I'm talking about human nature, even if you're awesome and want to help, doesn't mean everyone else gonna help.

More importantly, there are no sense of accomplishment in both games because gears are ass easy to obtain and doesn't last long. SoA is no different from Abyssea, and I'm never a big fan of Abyssea. Sadly SoA is even worse than Abyssea, at least Abyssea still has gear variety, unlike SoA gears are like same stat for every piece, just 1 better than another.

There are ppl who will like 75 XI, and some ppl like WoW model/vertical gear progression. But you can't assume everyone has same opinion as you and vertical gear progression is zomg the best solution to every MMO title. People complained about sidegrade, is like husband complained about their wife lol. They stick with their wife for too long and only see the bad part about it, and everyone else's wife are perfect. Vertical gear progression has it's issues, some ppl either don't see it or willing to accept it.

But there's no reason for XI to change to vertical gear progression, the entire game mechanics are based on gear swap and situational gears, it simply won't work very unless there's a remake.

Stop trying to change FFXI into wow, it's going to kill the game. If you like WoW model, build a new game or find a new game to play. Do you go to Diablo 3 forum and ask the dev change the game into WoW? No. So why are you asking FFXI to follow WoW model?