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    Player Fadnog's Avatar
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    Fadnog
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    Carbuncle
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    BST Lv 99
    I'm not too experienced with SMN or PUP but, I'm pretty sure their pets aren't any where near as sturdy as our pets are.

    PUP also has a 20 min recast on there puppet, though they got that dues machina(sp?) thing but I'm pretty sure they come out in a weakened state.

    SMNs... well how often do you see a SMN meleeing and doing enough damage to keep up with DDs with their attacks.

    From what I see its like:
    PUP has more damage output from player. (Though there is the mage puppet i guess.)
    SMN has more damage output from the pet.
    and as BST i think we kinda fall in the middle with about 50% damage on both us and pets.

    Though this is more from a theoretical stand point.

    Not posting this just to be a kill joy or anything cause i don't want to start a violent argument or anything.
    Simply trying to point out balance issues so we can find a way around it to make the idea more plausible.
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    Player Xilk's Avatar
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    Xilkk
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    Quetzalcoatl
    Main Class
    BST Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Fadnog View Post
    I'm not too experienced with SMN or PUP but, I'm pretty sure their pets aren't any where near as sturdy as our pets are.

    PUP also has a 20 min recast on there puppet, though they got that dues machina(sp?) thing but I'm pretty sure they come out in a weakened state.

    SMNs... well how often do you see a SMN meleeing and doing enough damage to keep up with DDs with their attacks.

    From what I see its like:
    PUP has more damage output from player. (Though there is the mage puppet i guess.)
    SMN has more damage output from the pet.
    and as BST i think we kinda fall in the middle with about 50% damage on both us and pets.

    Though this is more from a theoretical stand point.

    Not posting this just to be a kill joy or anything cause i don't want to start a violent argument or anything.
    Simply trying to point out balance issues so we can find a way around it to make the idea more plausible.
    I'm not near getting into a violent argument w/ you Fadnog. You are a fantastic BST!!
    I've read some of the descussion on the pup forums. The weapon they got in heroes gives 10/tic regain to the automaton. they can carry this in and out of abyssea. Combine this w/ tactical switch and they are spamming the Weaponskills. Automatons are very configurable, but they can be quite sturdy and compare to the master quite well also.

    I just don't think there is any game balance worries at all in giving bst/pet skillchains.
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    Last edited by Xilk; 03-09-2011 at 12:25 AM. Reason: spelling/grammer
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    Player Geebee's Avatar
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    Character
    Numpty
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    RDM Lv 1
    I have been asking the same question for years, BST + Pets are the perfect jobs for skillchains, SMN has been able to do this from day one and so has PUP, I can solo skillchain 7+k Light with My PUP in Abyssea (RNG frame) I would love to be able to do 30% of that damage with my pet.

    I feel from looking at the Jobs from day one and 1st release BST was never considered or able to skillcahin with pets so this would require a massive amount of work to complete, but you never know we still have 9 more levels to go so SE could be saving it for a 99 BST to savor and look forward to, who knows
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