Quote Originally Posted by Alpheus View Post
2. REMs across the board will only be buffed at lvl 99 and be granted item levels and all the attributes item levels bring along with proportionate boosts to their damage ratings and I assume; any base stat increases on the 99 Empy Weapons however I personally believe they will finally add WS DMG+X% as a hidden boost for genuine 99 Empyrean Weapons since it is the only class of legendary to not have that stat, and once you can unlock the Empy WS via other means the genuine weapons need a compelling case to be used and this is probably the only thing they can get.
I have to point out that we only assume that they will be given iLvs.
The only actual word on it was that they would have their damage boosted to comparable levels of Delve weapons.

And as such, not all the 119 weapons either. Only Mythics will have that boost to being 119 level in damage.
Relics and Empys will only receive a boost to match the augmented delve weapon drops: ie 113.
And I guess that matches Skirmish+1s as well.

But all we can say at the moment is that they will have the damage of these weapons... Hopefully they will actually have iLvs... because just having the dmg will still make them crap.

And I know ppl want their Relics and Empys to be the same tier as Mythic and Delve Mega Boss drops.... but I have to agree with Matsui's stated tiering.
Relics and Empy are soooooooooo friggen easy to make. Especially empys. They do not require the rigors of Mythics or even the harshness of getting a Delve win. (I know ppl can do it, but it's not like everyone can. BUT everyone CAN skirmish and skirmish2 AND they can make Relics and Empys with the only effort being time... or money if you're rich in the case of Relics.)

I would like to think that the Dev team has the know-with-all to realize that just upping the base damage still makes the REMs worthless....
But then these are the ppl that didn't think that making the REMs worthless would be a big deal to begin with... so...
50/50

I especially hope for the case with Macc.... and maybe with this update... Claustrum might actually be decent enough to not be just a vanity relic. (iLv = "fake" skill bonus = +Macc = Claustrum having mage stats!!)

Oh! And what would just be icing on the cake... Making them add the jobs that they really should have been added to once those job started existing.
Ever been on DNC and wanted to use your fancy 99 Mandau? Too bad!
RUN and GEO have 0 REMs? Not any more! Now GEO's on Mjollnr and RUN's on Ragnarok!!!
I pray to all Divinities that this happens.... Adding the jobs that should have always been added to the Relics... That should have been a day1 thing.



And as to Keeley's Chicken Little routine....
No. Boosting REMs to the delve level will make MORE ppl be able to do stuff. And returning players will actually be able to do things well.
Let's just look at MNKs for a moment.
Now all they have is Oats. Everyone has Oats.
BUT with the REM update... they can come to the Delve fracture runs with their REM. And be no more jank than the monk with the rank 15 delve 113 h2h.
Unless they have the mythic... then they'd be on par with the Oat MNKs.
And that's a good thing. It means more ppl can do the event meaning more options meaning more variance meaning more appeal.
The worst you'll see is a shout asking for "Delve <<Mega Boss>> Mythic DD only."
But in all likelihood what you'll see is "DREMS DD only," Delve-Relic-Empyrean-Mythic-Skirmish+1. (the skirmish+1 have the potential to be serviceable... and as such will only ever be a bottom to the other four... Much in the same way that an Oats is preferred to a rank15 113 h2h.)