The 3 hour thing is true if you play along side competent people. In 3 runs you can beat all the bosses and have enough points to purchase which ever ultimate weapon from delve you want. So yes it makes it kinda, lol. The true effort comes more in having such a group. After all this is a MMO not a I solo'd a bunch of lv 90 empy weapons with my multibox. Lv. 99 Relic are hard to make, and 99 empy a bit harder in current market, mythics still take the cake. After working so hard nothing wrong with your cake having 1-2% more DPS.