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    Player Spectreman's Avatar
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    Asura
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    THF Lv 99

    How can a new player get an empyrean weapon nowadays?

    Let's take a look at Daurdabla:

    50x Iron Plates
    75 Colorless Souls
    75 Apademak's Horns
    1500 Heavy Metal Plates
    60 Riftcinder

    To get it 4 song. When this thing was hot you would need an entire linkshell doing this for you to be able to achieve it or real life friends that would spend months playing for you.

    Now that building empyrean weapons is a thing to the past and no linkshells are doing it, its very unlikely that a player that didn't get it done by now will be able to have a 3 or 4 song instrument.

    Of course we are not talking about people who can purchase mercenaries help. 60 riftcinders are veing sold for 180million gil in Asura so that's a big no for almost every legit player in the game.



    Will SE lower these requirements or even better, create a new instrument crafted or dropped through new content that matches the empyrean?
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    Player detlef's Avatar
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    Philemon
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    Valefor
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    BRD Lv 99
    Getting your Harp to level 90 is actually easier than ever. Very few people going after Ironclads. Still some competition over colorless souls, but you can probably still have one of the zones all to yourself (especially Grauberg). And very little competition for Sisyphus or Dhorme Khimaira these days.

    As for 95 and 99, yes you're pretty much boned. Your best bet would be to shout for Uptala (since Mura is still in demand) and Morta. You can't rely on cinders and plates entering the market at a satisfactory rate; you have to go out there and make it happen.

    I would suspect that if you're having trouble with an Empyrean, making a new instrument come from current content could be equally (if not more so) out of your reach so be careful what you wish for. Personally, I think that if they're willing to have double plan Salvage, double drop Voidwatch can't be too far behind (one hopes).
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    Well from what i understand is that if SE intends to implement upgrades to REM and if these upgrades give wow factor. People will go back to doing REM trials even the ones who don't even have them now. In this case do the easy part now while you can because I'd hate to go find out that I just missed an 8 hour boss spawn all because the guys on the map camping already killed it 5 minutes ago.

    Then again I think SE wanted SoA to be a success first before directing the crowd away from the new expansion.
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    Player Spectreman's Avatar
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    I would like at least to get a new crafted or SoA instrument that could match the empyrean one. Or even making a relic equivalent.
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    Player Mirage's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Well from what i understand is that if SE intends to implement upgrades to REM and if these upgrades give wow factor. People will go back to doing REM trials even the ones who don't even have them now. In this case do the easy part now while you can because I'd hate to go find out that I just missed an 8 hour boss spawn all because the guys on the map camping already killed it 5 minutes ago.

    Then again I think SE wanted SoA to be a success first before directing the crowd away from the new expansion.
    No, they thought we would be fine with them obsoleting every other event forever, but they were apparently wrong.
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    The ladder can only go so high. That's how I see the playerbase right now. Any further we climb will bend the game and break it.

    The more power they give, the more irrelevant content will become.
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    Player Spectreman's Avatar
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    I've seen people asking for delve DD for things like Skirmish. This will be the downfall of this game if nothing is changed by SE.
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    Player Xantavia's Avatar
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    Xantavia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectreman View Post
    I've seen people asking for delve DD for things like Skirmish Voidwatch. This will be the downfall of this game if nothing is changed by SE.
    It's worse than you think.
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    The only way you will see a solution to the issue of people asking for DDs in a discriminatory way is to shout for your own groups and not do it yourself. No matter what SE does, it will not change the fact that the majority of people lead by example, and those who are the example are often those who want the best results. Best geared people means best results, so they ask for the best they can reliably get, as such others do the same, and it follows until you run out of people who lead, those who don't lead & don't meet these requirements occasionally take up the leading role, but do the same things they complain about in most cases I see anyways.

    Really, this issue is best solved by the players, and more specifically, by the players being excluded.
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    Player svengalis's Avatar
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    welcome to the new ff xi, if you dont get it the first month or so the content comes out then good luck getting it 3 months down the road. i see why they went with the new direction with gear progression.
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