Thief Treasure Hunter

[Firebert_Lakshmi]

You know how you can augment Relic +2 and it still keeps the Relic +2 name rather than +3? What about a Magian Trial for the knife as well? Do some sort of quest and the augmented Thief Knife offers better damage, maybe another nice perk like Triple Attack +X%

[Stompa]

I'm not sure about that, I brewed Shinryu a lot on solo thf, open with SA feint bully and TH+4 gear which I swap out immediately after the first hit. Most times the opening SA/feint/bully doesnt trigger a spark despite the TH7 base, but then when I swap to haste gear and magian offhander, I will typically get two sparks in the three minute brew (with no TH gear on at all.) Using this strat I can't remember a time I haven't got TH9, and frequently higher than that. I also see similar TH sparks on other NM's, with the TH7 at start and then TH3base for the rest of the fight with frequent ticks/sparks. As I understood it, the ticks are percentile rolls and random luck, I've never noticed any decrease when I swap the TH gear out. But thats just my experience, and it mirrors what other THFs have told me over the years.

[Daemon]

A hard cap would be nice but whose to say what that cap will be if Thief knife continues to exist? People regardless will use knife on top of what's added onto gear. Also through Atma Thief can proc 10+ so as long as atma exist I don't know how can TH be hard capped.

I'm just hoping that all other TH will be combined into 1 piece on to the new AF4.

I also don't have high hopes for TH to be increased higher than it already is.

In the meantime, DMG 28 does suck, and having to Macro in Theif knife is not a great solution due to TP. I'd hate to have extra macros for 1 task. Maybe it works for doing bosses and bigger things but I use my Thief for farming and losing TP for switching weapons between each kill wouldn't be good on mobs you kill quickly.

It seems SE is trying to improve ourselves with ilvl gear and hopefully heading in the direction of implementing gear so we don't have to carry so much for our sets
So unless SE removes Thief knife and atma all together, I think adding in a new dagger would be good with better stats.

[Infidi]

Is any TH worth getting over TH3 anyway? XD J/k j/k. I was always hard grained by people that any TH gained over TH3 is so negligible ,in helping with drops, its pointless anyway, lol. Maybe I should stop listening to people. :X

[Daemon]

Is any TH worth getting over TH3 anyway? XD J/k j/k. I was always hard grained by people that any TH gained over TH3 is so negligible ,in helping with drops, its pointless anyway, lol. Maybe I should stop listening to people. :X

Uh.. yeah... huge difference especially if you are using Atma in Abyssea.

[Infidi]

Uh.. yeah... huge difference especially if you are using Atma in Abyssea.

That reminded me of another question! Does TH effect empy weapon item drops, or just the equipment and random items NMs drop?

[Daemon]

That reminded me of another question! Does TH effect empy weapon item drops, or just the equipment and random items NMs drop?

It depends. If you are hunting items like Sobek skins, Kukulkan fangs. Yes.

But not Voidwatch HMP. That's a different Proc system.

[Infidi]

It depends. If you are hunting items like Sobek skins, Kukulkan fangs. Yes.

But not Voidwatch HMP. That's a different Proc system.

Yeah meant items like Sobek Skins. Really? I was always told that it didnt XD. All lies!

[Rustic]

Basically, the reason you fulltime TH gear is that not only gives you the highest "base" TH when starting, but the highest chance to proc further TH bonuses as you fight.

Ironically, the lower DPS also means more chances to proc your TH bonuses as you end up having to get more hits in on the mob to kill it. Updating it is a huge problem- it has to be in some fashion that makes using Thief's Knife with the new +TH weapon impossible, or else we're just going to be asked to dual wield the new and old weapon together for maximum TH instead.

[Daemon]

Basically, the reason you fulltime TH gear is that not only gives you the highest "base" TH when starting, but the highest chance to proc further TH bonuses as you fight.

Ironically, the lower DPS also means more chances to proc your TH bonuses as you end up having to get more hits in on the mob to kill it. Updating it is a huge problem- it has to be in some fashion that makes using Thief's Knife with the new +TH weapon impossible, or else we're just going to be asked to dual wield the new and old weapon together for maximum TH instead.

They do that all the time already. Items that don't stack.



NOTE: Does not stack with Sheltered Ring.